Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3E120163.D174C865@luckymojo.com> From: catherine yronwode Organization: Lucky Mojo Curio Co. 707-887-1521 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.magick.order,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.thelema,alt.pagan.magick Subject: Re: Initiation References: <3D9BFF4B.26D0DF5F@address.com> <3DA64F4F.C1EC119B@address.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 34 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:34:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.204.150.90 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1041366852 209.204.150.90 (Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:34:12 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:34:12 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.order:7041 alt.magick.tyagi:35562 alt.pagan.magick:35377 Joshua Geller wrote: > > 333 wrote: > > > I think Re O'Stat argued that the reason that this resurrected god > > motif was important to GD rites was on account of the importance > > attached to transformation and how the death-and-rebirth resonance > > mated with 'initiation'. > > It lends itself to a specific, practical, intensely powerful > initiatory rite. You said it! (-1) Optional: dose the candidate with a powerful mind-altering drug. > (0) Entomb the candidate so that it is impossible to get free > unaided: bits of rotting corpse optional. > (1) Leave the candidate alone for a good long while. At least > overnight, maybe as many as three days. > (2) Dig the candidate up. Optionally, have sex with the candidate. > > This is a very old practice, and has been used by any number of > different groups over the past few thousand years. The Hypogeum at Malta (neolithic era, underground temple, poppy ingestion, candidates left in solitary stone niches in the dark) was one of the earliest sites of such initiatic rites, as far as can be determined by the remaining archaeological evidence -- and it was set up to process dozens of candidates at a time. cat yronwode Lucky Mojo Curio Co. http://www.luckymojo.com/catalogue.html