Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic,alt.pagan.magick Subject: Magical Weapons and Disposal From: 333 Reply-To: spam@yronwode.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 82 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 06:24:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1023171889 208.201.242.18 (Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:24:49 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:24:49 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:32852 alt.magick:304046 alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic:34102 alt.pagan.magick:33100 Orig-To: thelema93-l@hollyfeld.org 50000504 IVom Happy Nulatix! > Do What Thou Wilt Shall be the Whole of the Law. The Word of Sin is Restriction. >I have one specific magickal implement in my possession which >has psychological links, in my mind, to someone who would >destroy me. that it is in *your* possession rather than that of your enemy is to your advantage. >I also have another possession which was largely created by >myself in direct correlation with a sworn enemy, the link >being highly direct due to the measurements being exact. as above. >Due to the fact that both of these items are of considerable art >and monetary value, I really hesitate on either burning them or >destroying them. I also feel that the act in itself would be >destructive to me, as the magickal links also include a great >deal of myself. do you want them to continue keeping a great deal of yourself? if so, perhaps 'reformatting' them toward other, only somewhat related purposes would be the proper option. >I don't feel that I can "give these" to someone else esp. when >the measurments and specifics are geared toward particular >individuals; and giving them directly to the individuals in >question is also not an option because they neither want them >nor would use them as they were designed. I feel then the will >of the implements (and mine) would be thwarted in some way. you could ask the implements what they want if you are in a quandry about it. >This has left me in a predicament: I have these things around >which I feel are beginning to create demons in my life that I >*definitely* want to banish. Yet I know *not* what to do with them. I know you said that you don't want to some things, but I'm doing to suggest what I understand to be your range of options which come to mind: * destroy these objects through loss (throw them into a crevasse, running water, into a crossroad, etc.), disintegration (crushing, burning, rending, etc.), distancing (bequeathal, donation, gift, etc.), or sale. * remove the original intention of the objects through reformatting, banishing, or purification. * add to the original intention by generalizing, complexity, or accumulation. * accept the objects as they are, but deal with the demons -- befriending, negotiation, banishment, etc. * accept both objects and their demons, and fortify yourself so as to resist any coercive influence. >Any suggestions? I would recommend selling the items and using the money for items of comparable type but different linkages. I would also work on your defenses and your relationships with demons. as long as you have enemies and demons in your universe, then you are at risk and must bolster your strength (through discipline, battery, and alliance) so as to keep from vulnerability. the best path is Agape, as Simon Iff has advocated, but if you can't manage that, Thelema is your best recourse. blessed beast! ______________________________________________________________________ (333) nagasiva@luckymojo.com; http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html I don't read everything here; cc me if you absolutely want a response.