Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick,alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic Subject: Re: Best Systems (was Enochian, Qabalah...) References: <3ccd9450.25465365@trialnews.peoplepc.com> <3cf7aef2.1161178@trialnews.peoplepc.com> From: nagasiva Reply-To: spam@yronwode.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 33 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 22:06:29 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1023055589 208.201.242.18 (Sun, 02 Jun 2002 15:06:29 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 15:06:29 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:32788 alt.magick:303761 alt.pagan.magick:33076 alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic:34080 50020602 VI om Gnomedpulme@aol.com (Gnome d Plume) quotes himself: > One should drink at the well of one's cultural heritage > not swallow one's own psychic saliva. > > ... yes, you've said that many times. I'm not convinced this is good or at least complete advice. where individualism and deliberate collage in spirituality are concerned, the only options available aren't restricted to what you've presented. you're just representing the community-supporting rhetoric to move the Herd to societal norms. seen from the other side in bias, I'd suggest that it is better to avoid any socio-cultural bondage in ritual or other occult styles until one knows to which one is enslaving hirself. only at that point can a true dedication be made, and the result is far more likely to conform with actuated desire (bhakti). yet both responses are extreme. circumstance and individual differences make universals impossible without coercion and unfair domination. > We can make magick on Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck but then it > becomes (IMO) no more profound and transpersonal than Dungeons > & Dragons.****** for those of your taste and upbringing. role-playing can be used in spiritual and profound ways just like any other art, and what one takes to be a god and another a cartoon is liable to vary. nagasiva