Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.magick.chaos,alt.magick.order,alt.pagan.magick,alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic Subject: Spells, Rituals, and Magical Careers References: <280220031412206809%ot18@tut.com> <3E60479F.7CFF59AC@slip.net> <3e607049_3@newsfeed> From: 333 Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 49 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 19:06:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1046804818 208.201.242.18 (Tue, 04 Mar 2003 11:06:58 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 11:06:58 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:38313 alt.magick:339780 alt.magick.chaos:41630 alt.magick.order:7306 alt.pagan.magick:36369 alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic:36106 50030304 VII om Nulatix-3 onetimes18: >>> I'm curious what magick has done for folks. Fr. A.o.C.[to the maxx!!!]: >> Made me healthy, wealthy, and wise. health -- apparently therefore having at least a dietary if not some actual physical component (like martial arts?). wealth -- a common application of magic, actually, though there are those who claim that magic cannot be utilized for this purpose without some kind of (dark) consequences. wisdom -- another common application of magic, especially as it pertains to the religiomystical dimensions. sometimes this is said to be temporary, as when one is attempting to use magic in the taking of a test or when making a particular decision. "RPM" : > Did the spell you cast? Will you tell me about such? > (I suppose I am a simple fellow. If you are being abbreviated > in the context, and have not legitimately gained such through > the direct casting of a spell, please say; I would certainly > be interested to know all about such. I can't really answer for my kin Fr. AoC here, but I can say that quite often in magical traditions the rites engaged and practices sustained by magicians are not called spells so much as rituals, and are repeated as a kind of formatting or discipline through which one may grow at that time and place in their development. this is not always true, though it seems commonly-construed by a good number of those posting to magick forums. luckily, you've asked someone who is promoting an "open source" version of their magical vehicle (the OhSOGooD), and thus you are more likely to get a straightforward answer which addresses your question. that said, it may be a bit more complex than Fr. AoC can identify here, since it may pertain to an overall "career" and how any specific magical practice affected him during that course in the circumstances in which he placed himself. this is one of the many important reasons that magicians recommend the Magical Record (or at least some kind of written wake) -- because it may allow those who come after to correlate raw material, stimulus, and trajectory, and thereafter see how it might be applied to oneself. 333