To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.magick.chaos Subject: Re: What has magick done for you? From: 333 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:41:44 GMT 50030304 VII om Nulatix-3 onetimes18 : > I'm curious what magick has done for folks. as regards magic divination early on, it was an orientation device, helping me to make sense of the cosmos within conventional and even esoteric society, find my place and role, and generally served in the same capacity as divination, combined with providing impetus to make headway on initial mystical discipline (meditation of various sorts and investment to the focus of attention in the present). power later, it helped me to stretch out, take chances, experiment, and create inroads to dimensions and opportunities I never knew existed, even forging a few new ones or travelling in unexpected and peculiar directions (predominantly Satanic and demonic). ascension recently, it has allowed me to settle into a position of more lasting and equilibrated power, begin experimentation with cosmic mechanisms, and the refashioning of magical equipment the improvement on traditional methods others may use to do similar things (often in orders, socially, but not necessarily). as regards magicK promise initially I thought it had promise, being inspired somewhat by the writings of the Beast in his 'Magick in Theory and Practice' and watching the fantastic doings of Thelemic mages whose paths I was fortunate enough to cross in brief sojourns. myopia later I began to understand its limitation and myopic application, restriction to Hermetic norms, and containment within the views advanced by those who fashioned extensions of Crowley's mechanism (ceremonial, at times methodically-religious). amusement now I have little use for Crowleyan constructs beyond reflection on the insights he shared in his later years as regards divinatory and gematric tools (tarot, 'qabalah') within his Liber Tahuti and his Magick Without Tears. one exception to this is his Liber 231, which I am once more studying along with Grant's "Nightside of Eden". if any have information about the origins of Liber 231's sigils, I'd love to hear about that. 333