Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick,alt.magick.chaos Subject: Banishing Basics (in Chaos??!) References: From: cometoce Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 46 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 01:35:50 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1078882550 208.201.242.18 (Tue, 09 Mar 2004 17:35:50 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 17:35:50 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:46288 alt.magick:369885 alt.pagan.magick:40639 alt.magick.chaos:44021 CGIL quotes the Book of Results on banishing: #$ Its function is not to act as a barrier against unknown energies and #$ influences (GD method) but to prepare the mind of the magician for the #$ influx of those energies and influences" # # ...are those energies from chaos "from chaos" sounds strange. maybe it's the rough equivalent to "from the Chaos Magick tradition" (which is strange altogether, but apparently has adherents!! ;>). # really *the ones* I try to get a protection from when using # Banishing ? a valuable question. one might ask the same about any number of similarly-referred entities/energies the world over intervening between cosmologic mindsets. are the goetic spirits the SAME as the spirits used for Neopagan worship? is Satan the SAME to Satanists as to Christians or Muslims? the issues are interesting. # ...Is Banishing really the equivalent of an "etheric condom", # so to speak?.... amongst Thelemic mages it seems to function this way, or at least as a kind of groundsclearing, yes. # In fact, the Book of Results mentions a protection against unknown # influences. When using Banishing, I'll try to get a protection # against *known* influences I guess, at least most of the time. # So it may not be contradictory. banishing in preparation for known entities and banishing against wandering or unknown energies sounds about the same. # The more I think of it, the more I'm tempted to use both versions, # as you suggest, depending on the ritual supposed to take place # afterwards. Or I'll even create my own mix :-) the timing of the banishing might also be affected by the mindset involved in the spellcasting. one might banish at the end in order to keep unwanted stray energies from affecting others in a kind of condom the way that some mages create a Chamber of Magic to contain the same kinds of things (focussing intentional energies and letting none extraneous escape to work peculiar unwanted results). apeshut-234890