Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: paulhume@comcast.net (Paul Hume) Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Re: pinnochian magic Date: 10 Jun 2003 07:55:36 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <99268733.0306100207.296bd31e@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.107.93.163 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1055256936 16846 127.0.0.1 (10 Jun 2003 14:55:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Jun 2003 14:55:36 GMT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:348749 > "The Enochian Magick of Dr John Dee: The Most Powerful System of > Magick in Its Original, Unexpurgated Form" > by Geoffrey James (Editor), John Dee > > when I read the "original" by John Dee, I was shocked to find that the > enochian tablets were names of demons, not angels. For instance, > enochian magicians will recognize RZLA as an angel. In the book cited > above, RZLA is the name of 2 demons, RZ and LA. But in the Golden Dawn > system (i.e., book of the concourse of forces) RZ and LA form 1 angel > called RZLA. > > Does anyone know why the original is demonic while the modern (GD) > system is angelic? Actually, it's two gums in one. Each letter pair in a row of servient squares can be combined with a third (I forget the formula off the top of my head) to form a goetic name. The letters of the row read across form an angelic name. So RZLA is angelic in the model, whereas RZ and LA are the roots of goetic trigrammatons. Paul