Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick Subject: Secrets and Discovery (was New Aeon...) From: 333 Reply-To: spam@yronwode.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 52 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 06:28:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1023172087 208.201.242.18 (Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:28:07 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:28:07 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:32853 alt.magick:304048 alt.pagan.magick:33101 Orig-To: thelema93-l@hollyfeld.org 50000201 IVom > Just on the point of secrets, what are they? Does the universe > seclude them or is it a product of societies engineering? secrets generally are information sets which are protected by an interested party from being revealed to another through concealment, deception, or aggression. these may be artificial or natural. the secrets of mysticism (which I tend to call 'mysteries') are self-transformative agents, whether in the form of reflections of the real, tools by which the real may sculpted or apprehended, catalyzing agents, or projections of some coming reality (prophecy). the cosmos may conceal them as long as there is will and intent behind the concealment. society may conceal them, for example, so as to disempower the individual and keep a cache of dependent members of the Herd for service to that society. an insect may conceal its identity as such, for example, as a function of its success in survival (camouflage). another reason secrets may be concealed (as in a secret society) is so that they may serve as bait, providing incentive to increase membership. whether the bait is worth the effort to become such a member is to be determined and dependent upon the particular secret and needs of the individual involved. > Basically are secrets inherent in the structure of the > universe, because if not they are not then they are, > ontologically speaking, not secrets at all. And if they > are in the structure of the universe, how can anyone find > them at all secrets generally may be a part of the inherent structure of the cosmos only if there is a 'Creator' or 'Designer' to put them there. these, if any exist, may be found through exploration. > and if they do, they are not exactly secrets anyway are > they???? a secret is a role a set of information plays with RESPECT to an observer. what is a secret to you may not be to me or vice versa. blessed beast! ______________________________________________________________________ (333) nagasiva@luckymojo.com; http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html I don't read everything here; cc me if you absolutely want a response.