Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newscon04-ext.news.prodigy.com.MISMATCH!prodigy.*.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr21.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!e764d923!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3D3E2B0F.223F1926@pacbell.net> From: Joseph Count de Money Reply-To: josfeph@pacbell.net Organization: Omnitheistic Church X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01aC-DIAL (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Re: Scrying/Channeling Question X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <5944dd93.0207231856.6ef89781@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.170.33.7 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr21.news.prodigy.com 1027484405 ST000 206.170.33.7 (Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:20:05 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:20:05 EDT X-UserInfo1: TSU[@ION_ZUUCU\Y^BIDM^P@VZ\LPCXLLBWLOOAF@YUDUWYAKVUOPCW[ML\JXUCKVFDYZKBMSFX^OMSAFNTINTDDMVW[X\THOPXZRVOCJTUTPC\_JSBVX\KAOTBAJBVMZTYAKMNLDI_MFDSSOLXINH__FS^\WQGHGI^C@E[A_CF\AQLDQ\BTMPLDFNVUQ_VM Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:20:06 GMT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:310743 rb1_622 wrote: > Is there really any difference between scrying and channeling? If > there is it seems to be in technique. generaly when one "scrys" one sees persons, places and/or things often of a highly abstract nature though very realistic scenes may be revealed to they scryer, either in the spirit vision or through a medium of a crystal ball, pool of ink, or bowl of water. channeling on the other hand is usually the attempt or act of giving voice to a deceased person, ramtha and her 30,000 year old atlantian warrior comes to mind. some people have claimed to channel the akasic records, information rather than a personality and its knowledge and often times the terms are used interchangably if inacuratly. -- Joseph ( The probability for an event which can happen in two indistinguishable ways is the sum of the probability for each way considered separately) Count de Money. Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!cyclone.columbus.rr.com!cyclone3.kc.rr.com!news3.kc.rr.com!twister.columbus.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Patti Ryon" Newsgroups: alt.magick References: <5944dd93.0207231856.6ef89781@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Scrying/Channeling Question Lines: 33 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:23:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.31.182.71 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.columbus.rr.com 1027524206 24.31.182.71 (Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:23:26 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:23:26 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online -- Columbus Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:310793 "rb1_622" wrote in message news:5944dd93.0207231856.6ef89781@posting.google.com... > Is there really any difference between scrying and channeling? If > there is it seems to be in technique. Channel- n. The pathway, within or without a person, through which energy or a spirit may move. v. The act of moving a spirit or allowing a spirit to move within internal pathways, often to speak. If this is done unwillingly, it is referred to as possession. In a similar vein, there is also being "ridden" by a spirit in Voodoun. Scrying- Divination, usually using such methods as crystal gazing, or divination via incense smoke, or water. Divination being a magical means of inquiry or exploration, essentially gaining information or insight through non-normative means. The difference is one between giving part of bodily control to someone, as letting someone else push your fingers to type out what you want to know, which they may or may not choose to give you or watching the news which may or may not have the info you need. Also, there are other reasons for channeling other than information. It is ritually used as a tool to honor a divine and welcome that divine within a circle. (Not highly recommended as far as I am concerned, but still respectably done.) I hope this clears some things up. -Patti Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed.news.qwest.net!news.uswest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Tom" Newsgroups: alt.magick References: <5944dd93.0207231856.6ef89781@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Scrying/Channeling Question Lines: 17 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:23:28 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.26.16.221 X-Trace: news.uswest.net 1027524108 216.26.16.221 (Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:21:48 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:21:48 CDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:310792 "rb1_622" wrote in message news:5944dd93.0207231856.6ef89781@posting.google.com... > Is there really any difference between scrying and channeling? If > there is it seems to be in technique. That's pretty much it. Both practices are attempts to contact invisible intelligences and gather information not available through normal methods of inquiry. "Channelling" seeks to contact these entities by allowing one's body to be used by them to communicate with other people. "Scrying" uses some externalized object, usually something somewhat transparent-looking, such as a crystal, a pool of water, or a mirror, in which one "sees" the entity and communicates with it that way. Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!sjc-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.efn.org!garcia.efn.org!pearlz From: Pearlz Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Re: Scrying/Channeling Question Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:37:48 -0700 Organization: Oregon Public Networking Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <5944dd93.0207231856.6ef89781@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: garcia.efn.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5944dd93.0207231856.6ef89781@posting.google.com> Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:310805 On 23 Jul 2002, rb1_622 wrote: > Is there really any difference between scrying and channeling? If Yes. Scrying is often a gnosis type thing. Other times scrying involves contacting other entities. But the scryer is not taken over by the entities. With channeling the entities sorta take-over the magus and talk through him or her. > there is it seems to be in technique. Often the scryer will use tools like tarot cards, runes, or at least a crystal to gaze in. With channeling these tools are not commonly used. - Peggy -