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Subject: Spiritualism and Spirituality (terms)
Date: 19 Jun 1997 03:28:09 -0700
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49970618 aa2 Hail Satan!

a brief escapade into semantics

	Spiritualism is a certain set of beliefs which have come 
	into vogue within New Age communities.

	Spiritualism appears to be a kind of religious movement 
	also, perhaps on the wane, especially in Eastern and
	mid-Western states.

	Spiritualism usually seems to include the idea I call 
	'the meat-puppet paradigm' (MPP).

	MPP identifies human beings as some kind of ghost which 
	inhabits human bodies like meat-puppets.

	MPP describes 'reality' as 'beyond the physical', usually 
	sourcing that material realm in an abstract 'reality' 
	called 'the astral' or 'God' or some other 'less dense 
	vibration'.

	MPP tends to see the 'earth-plane' as a temporary place, 
	a kind of classroom where we come to learn lessons and 
	then depart for less dense realms.

	MPP typically includes ideas like 'reincarnation' (the 
	origin of the 'meat-inhabiting idea' -- carn=> meat).


	in contrast to this


	I would describe to you what I mean by 'spirituality'.

	'spirit' is a mistaken impression of separation between 
	subjective and objective consciousness.

	that is, what we take to be 'the body' is us looking at 
	ourselves as physical objects.

	what we take to be 'the spirit' is us looking at ourselves 
	as immaterial subjects.

	an analogy for this is the comparison between a 
	living-room on wheels and an automobile.

	the living-room on wheels is seen from the inside (spirit),  
	the automobile from the outside (body).

	both are the same but they are experienced in two 
	different ways.

	'spirituality' is that which enhances the subjective 
	experience.

	this is very different, which should now be obvious, 
	from 'Spiritualism' as I have defined them both.

	typically I think of the 'soul' as the entirety of the
	the experiential self, not something necessarily static,
	but the entirety of what we are.

blessed beast!

tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com
nocTifer



