Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!feed.cgocable.net!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!gemini.tycho.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: lee@gw.retro.com (Lee Thompson-Herbert) Newsgroups: alt.religion.orisha Subject: Re: Flag making! =) Date: 13 Jun 2002 15:15:14 -0700 Organization: Knights of Xenu Message-ID: References: Lines: 50 NNTP-Posting-Host: bb664ba3.newsreader.tycho.net X-Trace: 1024005395 gemini.tycho.net 79558 205.179.181.194 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tycho.net Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.religion.orisha:14253 In article , IyaOshuntoki/Manbo C. Lavi wrote: >Thanks Lee-Thompson, >Ok, so how would you secure the material to the glass and allow for >the beading? If the material is tauntly pulled around the bottle and >then secured with seam reinforcement, how would you be able to get the >sequine and beads on? Should we use and invisible stiching appraoch? If you use a stretch material, It will have enough give for you to get the needle in and out. Using a curved needle makes it easier to bring the needle back up in a short space. Once you've sewn a couple rounds of sequins, the material won't come off, because it no longer stretches where you've stitched. Unless you use elastic thread, which I wouldn't recommend. If you use non-stretch material (like the Ezili Danto bottle referenced earlier), you'll have to fit the material to the bottle, but don't sew that last seam. Go ahead and embroider it off the bottle. When you're done, fit it around the bottle and slipstitch the covering closed. Since it doesn't stretch, it won't be coming off the bottle. You will have to shape your fabric foundation to fit the bottle, which is why most craft books suggest using stretch fabric. It's eaiser, and you don't have to use shaped pieces to match the shape of the bottle. Most bottles require more work than just a cylinder-shaped piece of fabric. I'd suggest the easiest method is to make a cylinder of fabric the same height as the entire bottle. Slit the fabric down to where the bottle begins to taper at the neck. Now, overlap the slitted fabric so it fits tightly to the bottle. Use a ladder or slipstich to secure your darts, making sure to fold the raw edges underneath as you sew. This method is best done the first couple times by pinning the pieces together or using tape to hold the pieces together while you stitch. You'll end up with a bottle-shaped piece of fabric. If you haven't closed the side seam, you can slip it off to embroider it in the hand. You can also just go ahead and embroider it on the bottle, but most people find that much harder to do. Upon rereading, let me clarify: When you slit the fabric to make it fit to the bottle neck, make sure you have made at least four sections to use while overlapping (so three slits). If the bottle is small, you may be able to get away with fewer overlapping sections. However, the more sections you use, the less lumpy your final results will be. The cheap and sleazy alternative is to wrap your excess fabric in embroidery floss or some cotton thread, winding it down tight to the bottle neck. In that case, you _will_ have to do your embroidery on the bottle. -- Lee M.Thompson-Herbert lee@retro.com KoX 1995, SP4 Head Muso, White Rats Morris Member, Knights of Xenu (1995). Chaos Monger and Jill of All Trades. "A head-on collision between Morticia Adams and Martha Stewart"