Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: paulhume@comcast.net (Paul Hume) Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick.chaos Subject: Re: CAT : voodoo, santeria, etc. books Date: 27 Oct 2003 05:45:22 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <3F94C50D.9175B781@luckymojo.com> <3F985E2C.37DDFB18@luckymojo.com> <3F98E448.8090903@cox.SPAMnet> <3F99AC14.4030309@earthlink.net> <3F99B2BB.9040300@cox.SPAMnet> <3F9A0583.86841171@yronwode.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.50.222.131 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1067262322 2406 127.0.0.1 (27 Oct 2003 13:45:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:359300 alt.magick.tyagi:41942 alt.magick.chaos:43356 > > > ... this > > > from a Psychologist/Quimbanda/Umbanda practioner friend in > > > Rio de Janeiro, Brazil and another Voudon practioner from > > > El Salavador. The best book in English I'd say is Maya > > > Derens "Divine Horseman." > > I agree that this remains the best English book on Haitian > Voodoo. It is somewhat outdated -- as if a book about > Pentecostal Black Christianity as it was in the 1930s and > 1940s remained our only resource on African American > religious trends -- but it is still solid and well-respected > for its accuracy. > Random thoughts... - there was a little one-hour reminiscence about Deren as a director on the Sundance channel this weekend (check listings, I am sure it will rerun). Occultists are so aware of Deren as a writer on Voodoo that we can forget her main claim to fame is as a filmmaker, esp. in the area of dance (which is what took her to Haiti in the first place). It is fascinating in its discussion of Deren as a person, as a mambo, and as a filmmaker. - there are more recent studies of Voodoo and voodoo practitioners, looking at the religions and magical tradition in a more contemporary context. They are well worth reading "Mama Lola" by Karen Brown struck me as insightful, and discusses its Lola's life as a priestess both on Haiti and in later life in New York City. It looks at the tension between the role of women in Haitian society (ferocious abuse is socialized) and their role as mambos, the relationship to the Goddesses in this context (Erzulie Danto comes into sharp focus, or did for me), et al. Like Deren and Hurston before her, Brown enters into the life of the voodoo community whole heartedly, and undergoes a marriage to Ogoun among other initiations. On the academic side of the court I was very impressed with Leslie Desmangles' "Faces of the Gods." Haitian-born theologian and anthropologist, now teaching in the US. Paul