Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B521511.11ED@luckymojo.com> From: catherine yronwode Organization: Lucky Mojo Curio Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.orisha,alt.magick.tyagi Subject: Re: Question for Voodou/Santeria/Lucumi practioners... References: <20010714124600.17749.00007753@ng-cg1.aol.com> <5606924c.0107150501.3b6de32e@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 54 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:03:23 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.204.136.59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 995234603 209.204.136.59 (Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:03:23 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:03:23 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.religion.orisha:10937 alt.magick.tyagi:27593 Mambo Michele wrote: > > Greetings Lucky Hoodoo and list, > > luckyhoodoo@aol.com (LuckyHoodoo) wrote: > > > What are your opinions regarding the current "fad" of using the > > Orisha in New Orleans style "Voodoo". > > This is not a "current" fad. New Orleans voodoo has been evolving > along these lines for a while, especially since the revival of > voodoo as part of the tourism industry here in the sixties and > seventies and, at the same time, African Americans beginning to seek > out the ATR's as a part of their heritage (and finding Santeria/ > Lukumi more accessable in the US due to the Cuban migration). > > Also for Mambos/Hougans, I recently watched an interview on t.v. > > with the owner of "Isle of Salvation Botanica" where the owner > > claims to be a Mambo. She states quite clearly that neither she, > > nor her congregation practice animal sacrifice. Now I know that > > sacrifice is a vital componant of ATR's and I would > > like the opinions of other Mambos/Hougans regarding this. > > Mambo Sallie was initiated in Port au Prince into the Haitian Vodou. > Her lineage can be verified, if that is a concern. Chatting with > one of her hounsis yesterday, in fact, I received a clarification of > what they practice in Mambo Sallie's house. Apparently, they call > it New Orleans Vodou. Elly's explanation basically is as follows. > New Orleans voodoo emphasizes magic and power (for good or ill). New > Orleans Vodou is Haitian Vodou with a New Orleans emphasis and > focusses on the religion, although work can be done as well. > > Also, no, they do not practice animal sacrifice. Mambo Sallie is > vegetarian as are a number of people in her house. My understanding > is that were they to sacrifice the animals, there would be too much > wasted meat because of their dietary choices. Just last night they > held a service for Dantor. They cleansed some people with birds and > set the birds free. This is not an unacceptable practice and I have > seen it used in a house of Ifa. However, I do not know how they > would handle certain other work that, in traditional Haitian Vodou, > might require the death of an animal. Nor do I know what they would > do should a Lwa demand a goat or rooster. Those would best be > questions for Mambo Sallie herself. > > Other houngan and mambo will have their thoughts on this issue but > for my part, if it works for the practitioners in that house... > > Regards, > Mambo Michele Thanks for an informative, non-divisive post on a sometimes-tetchy issue. cat yronwode