From: "Balthazar the Blue" Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.christnet.demonology,alt.magick.goetia,alt.satanism References: <949iv6$d4r0c$1@ID-48890.news.dfncis.de> <96ud0k$61n@bolt.sonic.net> Subject: Re: Demonological Hierarchies (was who are the 13 demons) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:07:57 -0600 Lines: 36 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.83.59.247 Message-ID: <3a92cf63$1_4@corp.newsfeeds.com> X-Trace: corp.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!crp!anonymous!127.0.0.1!crp 982699875 209.83.59.247 (20 Feb 2001 14:11:15 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 80,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: typhoon.sonic.net!uunet!sac.uu.net!lax.uu.net!newsxfer.interpacket.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub2.home.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!local-out2.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!corp.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!crp!anonymous!127.0.0.1!crp Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:26471 alt.christnet.demonology:12426 alt.magick.goetia:804 alt.satanism:170262 "SOD of the CoE" wrote in message news:96ud0k$61n@bolt.sonic.net... > 50010220 Vom Hail Satan! > > "Niels \"Inccubus\" Kobschtzki" : > >Hi! I'm searching the names and titles of the 13 great demons (Satan, Baal, > >Duriel and i know that there are more). > >Who can help? First: the number 13 seems unusual for any hierarchy. Even infernal hierarchies tend to use the number 7. Second: there are a number of sources you can try. Some of the books I would recommend as sources for hierarchies include: _de Praestigiis Daemonum_ by Johann Weyer _Angels: An Endangered Species_ by Malcolm Godwin _A Dictionary of Angels_ by Gustav Davidson. The latter two I'm familiar with, and both contain hierarchies. Davidson contains several hierarchies, one of which is that taken from Weyer. I believe the hierarchy in Godwin is also from Weyer. Some of the names you listed, as well as others (Sammael, Apollyon, Lucifer, etc.) are considered by Godwin to be more or less aliases for the same demon. Davidson also lists the "origins" of many of the demons listed, including Baal's origins as a Canaanite deity, Dagon's origins as the fish-god of the Philistines, and Astoroth/Ashtoreth's gender-switching background. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----