Path: shell.portal.com!svc.portal.com!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!paladin.american.edu!news.jhu.edu!news
From: Joe Harkness <hark@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Newsgroups: talk.religion.buddhism,alt.zen
Subject: Re: What is NOT zen?
Date: 7 Apr 1996 16:35:57 GMT
Organization: JHU
Lines: 49
Message-ID: <4k8qtd$qud@news.jhu.edu>
References: <4jel6q$7hc@news1.halcyon.com> <4jiele$mdi@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4jmipi$bvk@news.jhu.edu> <4jvkej$jvg@news1.halcyon.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.220.45.19
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit)
To: anon@coho.halcyon.com
Xref: shell.portal.com talk.religion.buddhism:19545 alt.zen:29378

anon@coho.halcyon.com (Guru Busters) wrote:

>For example, "imposing" your morality that child abuse or murder is 
>wrong, is not taking away or "state regulating" a religion. There simply 
>is an ethic which is so fundamental to human beings that no religion can 
>forgo them unter the pretense of "religiou freedom". If they did, let me 
>say taht I would be the first to declare as my religious freedom, my 
>right to break open ATM machines and take all the money :).
>

Ah, this is where the misunderstanding lies.  You seem to think
that unless something is expressly prohibited by some external
authority, then it is "allowed".  But this is not the correct
understanding and owes more to the common Jewish/Christian 
image of God as lawgiver and judge than anything else.

Let me try to say this again.  In zen, the reliance on *any*
external authority as the standard of "good" and "bad" must
be overcome.  Such authorities include scriptural teachings,
guidelines, gurus, fine sayings (such as the Golden Rule),
rationalizations, culturally inscribed codes of behavior, parents
etc etc etc.  Rather, the claim is that *in one's ordinary heart
and mind, one already possesses the intrinsic wisdom to act
appropriately in any situation*.  As long as we are relying on
words, rationalizations, precepts, admonitions etc, we are bound
to err because we are not relying on the inherent purity of
our true nature (ie ordinary heart & mind) which contains the
wisdom and goodness of all ages.  Whenever we invoke a moral system
in an effort to justify our actions, we have automatically gone
off the track.  Because there is *no* justification for anything
we do.  Only when the "good" done is totally invisible to the doer,
only when it flows with utter spontaneity and simplicity, can it
be said to be *genuinely* good.  

This is why the fundamental ethical obligation of a zen buddhist
is to realize one's true nature.

This does *not* mean however that "anything goes".  In a fundamental
sense, anything *does* go -- but as soon as one draws upon this notion 
to justify one's actions, one is turning it into a moral system and
thereby externalizing it.  In other words, as long as you are still
involved in playing the game of "what I do is good/what you do is
bad" you aren't there yet, and you'd better get busy.

Capish?


Joe


