From tyagi@bjt.net Wed Nov 27 07:23:01 1996 Return-Path: tyagi@bjt.net Received: from kudonet.com ([165.227.52.1]) by bitsy.hollyfeld.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA29452 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 05:56:10 -0500 Received: by kudonet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id CAA06539; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 02:42:53 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 02:42:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199611271042.CAA06539@kudonet.com> To: tyagi@hollyfeld.org Subject: Zen/9611.zenmind.b From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva) Reply-To: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva) Status: RO >Path: kudonet.com!news.scruz.net!miwok!news1.best.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!super.zippo.com!zdc!szdc!szdc-e!news >From: "Bonehead" >Newsgroups: alt.zen >Subject: Re: What is Zen? >Date: 18 Nov 1996 12:35:29 GMT >Organization: Zippo >Lines: 21 >Message-ID: <01bbd54c$abf34be0$46112ccf@old-trash> >References: <6KLL5BA7H6B@pascal.art-line.de> <01bbcf55$5d9d99c0$4b112ccf@old-trash> <56ckin$c87@agate.nbnet.nb.ca> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Brian Hoyle wrote in article <56ckin$c87@agate.nbnet.nb.ca>... > I am new to this group. If you could please elaborate a bit > more on the above quote, it would help me. I take the quote to > mean that we are part of everything, and part of what happens > naturally. Is that close to what you were saying? There is no MEANING. It is a pointing finger to a different way of perceiving and interacting. It is free and immediate and doesn't dither about in the world of distinctions. It is no-mind. No-mind is not a vacuum or zombie state but a highly aware state that is clear and undistorted. Another quote, this one from the Zenrin Kushu, may give you a small taste of the flavor of no-mind: The wild geese do not intend to cast their reflections upon the water; The water has no mind to receive their image. Bonehead