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From: Ardie Hell <ardent19@idt.net>
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Subject: Re: 'Nirvana' and 'Enlightenment' (was Re: Phoney Zen)
Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 16:50:26 -0400
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! wrote:
> 
> dediu@webbnet.com:
> #> What do you mean by "the light of mind"?
> 
> Ardie Hell <ardent19@idt.net>:
> #Kinda like having a flashlight (torch) in a dark room. Mind we say in
> #Buddhism is naturally illuminative.
> 
> since 'nirvana' implies the extinguishment of a candle, does this
>  therefore imply 'no-mind'?

"What is called no-mind is nothing other than a mind free from deluded 
thought." --Bodhidharma's _Treatise on No-Mind_ (trans. App)

"As soon as you see that true mind is at root without delusive thought, 
you have attained true nature." --Yuanminglun

No-thought may also be related to the Neodaoist ideas of Wang-pi, in 
which we are to understand "wu" (no) as a sheer creative potential, 
which in addition, is formless and nonlocal.

A

