Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!166.88.5.10.MISMATCH!news.kjsl.com!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!xmission!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: bloodofenoch@goddamnfruit.com (Andralphus) Newsgroups: alt.magick Subject: Re: Beg. Enoch Date: 10 Apr 2002 10:29:51 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <01c1db7a$04ab1ae0$d8865f18@federalist> <3cabc7b9.35167250@trialnews.peoplepc.com> <361f09a8.0204041158.28dc210a@posting.google.com> <3cade518.1868978@trialnews.peoplepc.com> <361f09a8.0204051502.3224145c@posting.google.com> <3cae3f17.24910674@trialnews.peoplepc.com> <361f09a8.0204081036.36c2606a@posting.google.com> <3cb3424f.5875621@trialnews.peoplepc.com> <3CB259BF.7D4@luckymojo.com> <361f09a8.0204090717.6695d00c@posting.google.com> <3cb31222.526294@trialnews.peoplepc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.229.35.249 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1018459791 1179 127.0.0.1 (10 Apr 2002 17:29:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Apr 2002 17:29:51 GMT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick:297014 Gnomedplume@aol.com (Gnome d Plume) wrote in message news:<3cb31222.526294@trialnews.peoplepc.com>... > a Kabbalah in which there is no > morality, no evil, and in which Samael and his demonic buddies are > really the good guys? In actual fact your perversion of Jewish > Kabbalah is closer to libertine and/or "Ophite" Gnosticism than the Are you saying there was no libertinism or antinomianism in rabbinical kabbalah? Have you heard of Jacob Frank? > traditional rabbinical version Scholem and Kaplan present. I don't know about Kaplan. But Scholem presents a historical picture of the development of Kabbalah that is not universally agreed upon, especially the way he ties it so strongly to Gnosticism.