From alt.magick.tyagi Mon Mar 11 13:59:12 2002 Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.magick.serious,alt.divination Subject: DAHulse: Controversy Over the Original Alphabet From: nagasiva Reply-To: SPAMd_a_hulse@yahoo.SPAMcom User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 56 Message-ID: <011c8.1211$hb6.8174@typhoon.sonic.net> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 06:18:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1014013116 208.201.242.18 (Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:18:36 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:18:36 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:31007 alt.magick:287787 alt.magick.serious:21045 alt.divination:18834 Status: RO [from thelema93-l@yahoogroups.com: David Allen Hulse" ] So much has been debated on this issue already that I was tempted to ignore this controversy. However, I have spent the last 30 years investigating the symbolism latent in isopsephic alphabets (i.e., alphabets that are both phonetic and numerical). One point that I would like to raise is the evolution of the mysticism of number symbolism. Cuneiform, Phoenician, Hebrew, Greek, Coptic, Arabic, Sanskrit and Tibetan did not have a number system independent of their distinct alphabets. The alphabet was used for such prosaic numberings as coinage, land measurement, page numbering, etc. As such the alphabet served as a number scheme before anyone discovered the latent harmonies in measuring the values of word, phrases, verses, et al. The mysticism came after the establishment of the alphabet values and not before. It is a personal mysticism aimed solely at the user. This mysticism had the potential of opening up two channels: (1) to one's higher self, and (2) to the Godhead. The interpretations offered by these codes are always subjective, and they offer a gate to transcendent awareness. But they are not the transcendent consciousness, but merely the pointers to that state. Many other magical and mystical tools can point the user to these higher states of consciousness. But the number lore commonly referred to as gematria is capable of pushing the individual to new heights of awareness. This tradition was definitely in Babylon, but it was not in Egypt. Egypt's mysticism of numbers came from the measurement of monuments and the symmetry of the engraved hieroglyphs. But the alphabet symbolism that we are so familiar with in Greek and Hebrew did not exist in Egypt. Another argument I would like to posit is the difference between gematria obtained in Greek or Hebrew. The values given to the Greek language by the traditional Greek number code cannot possibly define the first 100 numbers accurately. Hebrew is much more flexible in attributing number values to words valued in the range of 1-20. But, Sanskrit is the most powerful language of all when reduced to numbers for defining the first 100 numbers. Modern numerology is a degeneration of the classical languages possessing number value. Modern numerology came about in the last 300 years when the metaphors for the number range beyond 1-9 were lost to time. Then and only then did numerology come into prominence. Finally, anything can be produced by number analysis. It is a system open to such rampant abuse, especially if the user is always trying to force certain pet numbers on the subject (such as 93, 418, 666, etc.) However, if treated with respect, this technique can allow transcendent information to come into the personal sphere of existence. When trying to discover the true number value of any concept, one must be aware that every number is infinite, valid, and instructive. copyright David Allen Hulse 2002 EOF Status: RO act us. Keep on Googlin', The Google Team