From server@nosferatu.cas.usf.edu Wed Jun 28 21:43:31 1995 Received: from nova (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA17608 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:43:31 -0700 Received: from nosferatu.cas.usf.edu (nosferatu.cas.usf.edu [131.247.31.155]) by nova (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA08445 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:43:30 -0700 Received: (server@localhost) by nosferatu.cas.usf.edu (8.6.12/8.3) id AAA23229; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:50:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:50:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199506290442.VAA17508@jobe.shell.portal.com> Comment: Discussion of Magick in general Originator: thelema93-l@nosferatu.cas.usf.edu Errors-To: sarkis@luna.cas.usf.edu Reply-To: thelema93-l@nosferatu.cas.usf.edu Sender: thelema93-l@nosferatu.cas.usf.edu Version: 5.5 -- Copyright (c) 1991/92, Anastasios Kotsikonas From: tyagi mordred nagasiva To: Subject: Re: Liber Gematria (By Frater Nigris) Status: RO 49950628 Do whatever the hell you like. It's your life. |From: mcohen@cosi.stockton.edu (Marc Cohen (who is Frater TENNYACHU)) |Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 15:48:23 -0500 |...I'd like to be part of the effort to establish a Sephir Sephiroth from |this, as it is the most intriguing effort on an English Qabalah (beginning |with Gematria and then hopefully to expand) that I have seen yet. Ok, here's what I've been able to discover: # From: (Ronald Hale-Evans) [rwhe@webcom.com] # To: tyagi@HouseofKaos.Abyss.com (Hsi Wang Mu) # Subject: Re: English Qabalah # Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 15:21:53 -0400 (EDT) # Quoting: >Mu # >49950627 # >There is a brief discusson of English (Romanized) Gematria in the # >Theleme93-L Listserv and I'd like to provide them with an email address # >to coordinate work with you on providing words for the program you've # >created. Can I use this email address I have for you and your name? # >Can you provide a brief format for files that people will send you # >with words to add? Thanks. # The address you should give them is rwhe@webcom.com; ... # The format should be thus: plain ASCII, with a single word or phrase to # be analysed on each line, separated by carriage returns. Something like this: # # grail # nirvana # Kether # Kether in Assiah # Kether in Briah # Eris # salt # mercury # azoth # # (etc.) # # Alphabetisation and duplicates are no problem; Gem will take care of them # itself. # # If there is interest, I have the wherewithal to start an English Gematria # mailing list (a "real" list, that is). If a few people write and ask me # to start one, I will. Also, I can post the word lists that Gem creates as # flat ASCII at my website, if there's interest.... # Ron Contact Mr. Hale-Evans if you are interested in such an elist. Send him a list of words you'd like included in the English Qabalah database or if you'd like to see his list at his website. Also contact him if you want the list of words which are already in the database email'd to you so you won't do so much extra work. ;> I already sent him a preliminary list, but it is nowhere near complete and we've got a lot to go. All assistance is welcomed. Again, note that most of the Nigris' Roman Gematria is not new. Nigel Pennick calls it the 'Ulian Schemata' (absent the Z=0). He says that a man by the name of D. Jason Cooper came up with it. There is a long history of Roman Gematria, stretching back to Agrippa and Dee and others, though people varied as to their attribution system. The Ulian Schemata has an advantage in that it mimicks the traditional Hermetic Greek and Hebrew Gematria systems, grouping into three sets of increasing value. I highly recommend Pennick's _Magical Alphabets_ as a resource not only on Roman Gematria but on alphabetics and its association with numerology through history. |...This is very unique - the possibility of something ORIGINAL finally |developing; not just in Thelema, but in life in general! I think there are many many original things developing all around us. :> Surely you are one of these. Love is the whole of the Law. Hsi Wang Mu tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com