Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!sfo2-feed1.news.digex.net!dca6-feed1.news.digex.net!intermedia!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!netnews.com!xfer02.netnews.com!feeder.via.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!206.13.28.144!news.pacbell.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B7996D2.B8FEE253@pacbell.net> From: Joseph Reply-To: josfeph@pacbell.net Organization: Omnitheistic Church X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick Subject: Re: Da'ath? (was spherical UFOs) References: <9kn6fj$h7r$1@plutonium.btinternet.com> <9ksmr0$4u9@bolt.sonic.net> <3B75727D.9BB96514@bigfoot.com> <9la9j6$9ub@bolt.sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 23 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:23:30 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.170.33.122 X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: news.pacbell.net 997823834 206.170.33.122 (Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:17:14 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:17:14 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:28639 alt.magick:257259 Phant wrote: > Da'ath - referred to as 'the hidden sephirah', or the 'Abyss'. Between > Kether and Tiphareth it represents the gulf between the self-bound form and > the realm of pure spirit. > > It's considered a major danger of prematurely trying to transcend self, > where the ego can be overwhelmed and 'blown away' by the experience of > spirit. > > Yes. It's also regarded as the doorway to the Qliphoth. and at least in some systems its associated with the "throat chakra" or that area of the body where sound comes out modulated by muscles controlled by the brain in a vain attempt to articulate hidden things. of course there are those rare few whos words are somehow a pleasing flux between up and down who form a matrix of undrestanding with the simplest phrases whos speeh in short is in tune with their being and not at war with it. joseph Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!out.nntp.be!propagator-dallas!news-in-dallas.newsfeeds.com!in.nntp.be!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!cyclone.tampabay.rr.com!cyclone.austin.rr.com!cyclone2.austin.rr.com!typhoon.austin.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "David Cantu" Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick References: <9kn6fj$h7r$1@plutonium.btinternet.com> <9ksmr0$4u9@bolt.sonic.net> <3B75727D.9BB96514@bigfoot.com> <9la9j6$9ub@bolt.sonic.net> Subject: Re: Da'ath? (was spherical UFOs) Lines: 62 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: <6Dhe7.107107$g_3.15646893@typhoon.austin.rr.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:29:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.28.110.135 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: typhoon.austin.rr.com 997828162 24.28.110.135 (Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:29:22 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:29:22 CDT Organization: Road Runner - Texas Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:28642 alt.magick:257270 "nagasiva" wrote in message news:9la9j6$9ub@bolt.sonic.net... > 50010813 AAVI! om Hail Satan! Hail Yes! > > unknown: > >>> ...hard to make out and the middle sphere is usually hard to see as well, so > > "Starlancer" : > >> Da'ath? ;-) > > "David Cantu" : > > Thats pretty good....'till ya step in it! > > what's "Da'ath"? isn't that a Hebrew word? stepping in words? I'll Grant you that. > 11th Sphere? non-Sphere? vacation spot for proto-Malkuth? bowels of the Cosmic Man? > residence of Qliphotic demons described by Liber 231? running on at the mouth? > or total ineffability? > blessed beast! > nagasiva Well, I don't entirely disagree with what others wrote about this; but, they are a bit theoretical. I'll give my experience and we will see if there is a match up, though it is not required as far as I am concerned. Da'ath, though a "false sephira" is, like the others a state of consciousness, in this case a state of consciousness in which the conditionality of knowledge is directly experienced. Knowledge, without an anchor of truth, is blindness. In this state all knowledge becomes essentially arbitrary, or at least everything you thought you knew turns out to be, if not wrong, then grossly underestimated. Indeed you can "step into" Da'ath, and it is a place of Qliphotic demons, either as the ideas you once held firmly onto, or experience that shatters those ideas. The experience of Da'ath leads to the Abyss, for what is left once knowledge becomes belief and all your beliefs have been destroyed, if you can completely accept that you are helpless in this and let yourself go through total loving acceptance, even to a willingness to give all, then you might be helped across, literally by angels. If you, instead, reject, and turn away back into yourself, rebuilding the old facade, then you are lost, never to return. Once through, one truly knows the Oath of the Magister Templi, not as abstraction, but as moment to moment experience. Love, David > -- > emailed replies may be posted ----- "sa avidya ya vimuktaye" ----- > "that which liberates is ignorance" http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html > hoodoo catalogue: send postal address to catalogues@luckymojo.com