From tyagi@bjt.net Fri Dec 13 14:18:21 1996 Return-Path: tyagi@bjt.net Received: from kudonet.com (kudonet.com [165.227.52.1]) by bitsy.hollyfeld.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA22371 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:18:13 -0500 Received: by kudonet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA28806; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:09:58 -0800 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:09:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199612131809.KAA28806@kudonet.com> To: tyagi@hollyfeld.org Subject: Neopaganism/9612.trplgds.r From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva) Reply-To: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva) Status: O >Path: kudonet.com!news.scruz.net!noos.hooked.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-hk.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.glink.net.hk!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.90.222.2!news.brewich.com!robomod!srp-submit >From: RAY >Newsgroups: soc.religion.paganism,alt.magick.tyagi,talk.religion.misc,alt.mythology,alt.religion.wicca,alt.pagan,talk.religion.newage >Subject: Re: ABranchfeather: Reality of Gods (was William Blake's Pantheon) >Date: 7 Dec 1996 16:55:59 -0600 >Organization: University of California at Davis >Lines: 44 >Sender: srpbot@news.brewich.com >Approved: SRP Approval Key >Message-ID: <32A8BC33.2546@ucdavis.edu> >References: <01bbe17a$c26550a0$0301a8c0@gkar> >NNTP-Posting-Host: brewich.com >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-SRP-Homepage: http://www.brewich.com/org/srp/index.html >X-SRP-Info-1: Send submissions to srpbot@brewich.com >X-SRP-Info-2: Send technical complaints to srp-admin@brewich.com >X-SRP-Info-3: Send complaints about policy to srp-modkin@brewich.com >X-Robomod-Written-By: ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov) >X-Auth: PGPMoose V1.1 PGP soc.religion.paganism > iQBVAwUBMqn1/FzemumcYbkZAQH+iwH9Ee2BHJvjdxrdF5A1d3aXO0lF79hBprVu > s2LuDOHu2TJY7kLDa1M6JOn5lZi5xdqh5DpxIWVfqy417QvLNQOafQ== > =W0RY >Xref: kudonet.com soc.religion.paganism:3687 alt.magick.tyagi:8371 talk.religion.misc:219715 alt.mythology:26528 alt.religion.wicca:33686 alt.pagan:159021 talk.religion.newage:52436 Lady Courtsan wrote: > > nagasiva wrote in article > ... > > [from soc.religion.paganism: "Ashley Branchfeather" > ] > > > > Felis Uncia wrote: > > > > > : In article , "Ashley Branchfeather" > > > : wrote: > > > 3. Many aspects of deities can be traced to particular sources: for > > instance, while triple goddesses are old, the 'Maiden, Mother, Crone' > idea > > was an invention of Robert Graves (see other thread). It's now a defining > > property of the Wiccan Goddess > > Correct me if I am wrong please, but are not the three identities of the > Goddess in some way attributed to the old legend of The Fates? They are > the same thing....the grandmotherly type (cutting the threads of life), the > motherly type who measures the length of a individuals life and the > beautiful maiden who collects the essence of the threads from chaos and > weaves them......sorry but I do believe this legend and reflection onto the > Goddess is much older (as is the Wiccan way as compared to Christendom) > than that of Robert Graves!!!!! > > Blessed Be!! Graves may have come up with the specific titles of "Maiden, Mother, Crone," and he may have defined the triad in his own unique way, but if you look into past mythologies (not just Celtic or Greek), you will see this triad everywhere. I believe the three goddesses can be described by the three phases of the moon (new, waxing, and full) and the colors: black, red, and white. But all of this is not front page news. You do not even need to read myths to see the triad. They are everywhere. Does anybody have any thoughts on what the corresponding male figures might be? There is the triad of Brahma, Shiva, and Vishnu, but somehow that does not seem to be the same triad to me. These gods are usually in conflict while the female triad seems to me to be in cooperation. Maybe that is saying something about the function and character of the sexes and their internal dynamics.