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Subject: Euthanasia and Wicca (was Re: hi, boboroshi CoE !)
Date: 16 Jul 1998 21:07:20 -0700
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49980716 aa3 Hail Satan!

		NECROPHILIA IS A NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE!

antellllf@aol.com (ANTEllllf):
# ...There's a nature religion, called Wicca. 

you call THAT a nature-religion??!!  c'mon, sliding around in
circles chanting woowee woowee mystical gomjabber and then
going STRAIGHT back to some conformist middle-class life that
cannot but be described as "consumerist"?  puh-lease!  now I
love that Wiccan Rede (guideline!), and I'm very hip to the
Threefold Law of Revenge (a social principle), but really,
aren't all these cartoon gods and goddesses just a bit FAR
from actual, real, live, NATURE?  if you call THAT a nature-
religion then does Christianity qualify as a sex cult??????


>One of it's tenets is maximum possible harmony with nature, 
>and self-determination.  "Buckland's Complete Book of 
>Witchcraft" If anyone cares.

honestly, what does this have to do with "nature"?  how does
it in any way influence Neopagans and Wiccans and Witches to
move beyond strident imaginaryland ritualism into actively
taking a hand in changing the behaviors of the individuals
involved, let alone the rest of the species?  c'mon, ain't
you talking about worshipping a MOTHER goddess, the very
force behind all this here birthing and hemming and hawing?

is a *fertility* religion really gonna do anything serious
about the overreproduction of human beings?  is celebration
of the aesthetic pleasures honestly gonna teach us about a
way to come to discipline with regard to our consumption?

and boy howdee, what about real, honest-to-goddess ecological
principles in that there religion?  where is it in the book
by Buckland you're pushing?  the essential responses I have
for you include:

	what does "harmony with nature" mean?
	how can it best be achieved?
	is self-determination adversarial to that?

blessed beast, you! ;>
boboroshi, Satanic Outreach Director for the Church of Euthanasia
 closet wikkhun from the evul wikkunz holy church of blasphemy
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