Path: typhoon.sonic.net!feed.news.sonic.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd7cy2so!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!soggy72.drizzle.com!user From: paghat@netscapeSPAM-ME-NOT.net (paghat) Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan,alt.religion.thelastchurch,alt.religion.wicca,alt.wicca,alt.traditional.witchcraft,talk.religion.misc Subject: Re: Chritianity a Strand of Wicca???? Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 14:01:44 -0800 Organization: Happy Smiley Funeral Parlor Message-ID: References: <4686qvcrggk5b50n23n1egvonbboaqc545@4ax.com> <6l09qvoomuf9khtoedig1p931jhk4cig80@4ax.com> <3FA4952F.3FAE9556@pacbell.net> Cache-Post-Path: yasure!unknown@soggy72.drizzle.com X-Cache: nntpcache 2.4.0b5 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 34 Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:42349 alt.pagan:377809 alt.religion.wicca:773797 alt.traditional.witchcraft:157199 talk.religion.misc:405927 In article , "janet" wrote: > How can Wicca, which begins in the last century in the 1950s, be a precursor > to a faith which is 2000 years old? One common belief (& "belief" is the key word here) is achieved through the concepts of syncronicity & the submergence of old tradition into new (like Tamuz worship becoming Christianity, or Isis worship becoming Mariolatry), then the recovery of the older tradition from scraps that survived in the usurping faith. Hence a Dianic witch can acknowledge without feeling too upset about it, that the nature of her worship is derived from christianity & in particular from such figures as Black Mary, who can rightly be viewed as a modern European survivor of Artemis or Cybele, THEREFORE and Ta-Da, to worship Mary is to worship Cybele, & vis-a-vis. With this sentiment, the Dianics do not have to confront too much that it may well have started with a couple of really crappy & muddled pop-books like BRINGING DOWN THE MOON consisting primarily of the made-up-from-hot-air B-S factor. And where Faith is concerned, none of it need actually be reasonable & true, it's just accepted on Faith. It's merely a bonus if ideas like submergence & syncronicity can make the believer in some archly modern religion feel somewhat justly that it's not really newly made-up. I'd rather the Dianics, 99% of them from christian backgrounds, had just created a big christian schism heightening the tone of Mariolatry -- that could be exciting & troublemaking in a way that running off to make shit up in a near-vacuum never can be. -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/