To: FiatLVX XMagick Listserv From: tyagi mordred nagasiva Subject: Re: Psychoactives and Magick Date: Kali Yuga 49941218 ...My impression is that psychoactives used in ritual ways produce life-long changes and quite serious value-changes that last a very long time, perhaps permanently. I think a study of strong psychedelics, such as LSD, would support my claim. ...the values I have found psychedelics specifically to promote in repeated ritual use are those for open-mindedness, for peace, love and momentary presence. This is of great value in the integration of all religious paths, since I find that I am enabled to maintain a flexibility of mind (much as yoga increases flexibility of body) and a capacity for a greater range of human experience (so as to understand the various emotive and physical paths to the Christ Consciousness). Descriptions such as those by Huxley and Leary are of benefit in understanding this sort of 'occasional perceptual filter-cleaning' which a psychedelic magical path may include. I imagine that someone could attempt to use psychedelics to rigidify their dogma, though I'm not sure how effective it would be, based on what I described as their dissolutive aspect. The ego is at least temporarily dissolved in the surface consciousness. This may be the equivalent state to what Allegro called 'Xristos', that 'omniscience' described in the Gospel of John. Once more, there is quite a difference between the haphazard use of psychoactives to avoid one's problems and an intentional use as a mechanism of self-unfoldment. I find that such ritual usage actually encourages alternative means, leading me away from seeing the most effective substances as continually necessary, and finding ways to inspire ritual states within ordinary life (and thus I do specific ceremonials less and less while feeling like I'm in ritual more and more often). These substances do not trigger 'omniscience', but they do seem to involve a kind of 'knowingness'; devoid of certainty yet powerful of heart. Again, I don't feel that the substances themselves contain these experiences. I think that one need be familiar with the tool and intending integration for such a Mass to ensue. Proceed with caution if at all. [re: dissolution] In my Bible, 7) reduction to a liquid form, liquifaction. I compare the experience with adding our sugar-selves to a glass of water and stirring. We make the elements of our consciousness more visible (psyche - mind/consciousness; delic - visible) through dissociating from the ego- center as it (at least appears to) disintegrates. Gradually that water evaporates once more and we may have some input as to the form of reinte- gration. Consuming our flesh and our blood (the Meal of the Gods; Communion) via a Chud-like self-dissolution (Chud is a Tibetan Buddhist rite), we are born unto that exact 'transcendant state' (i.e. cleansed, baptized) and more able to sense the perfect Spirituality (nondual) of the cosmos). The shift is indeed temporary, just as much as is the Catholic Mass. Yet each re-enactment, each ritual cleansing brings us closer to a life of intuitive integration, pure Spirit (living outside the bounds of strict dualistic experience). nagasiva, tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (NocTifer)