Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.mythology,sci.skeptic,alt.psychology.jung Subject: Re: Evidence Supporting Collective Unconscious/Archetypes? Anybody? (was Demonstrating) References: <3d520c07.7452692@news.rmci.net> <3d533d8e.3092934@news.rmci.net> <3D54317C.A5E@luckymojo.com> <3D5434D7.BB33B3B0@Gate.Of.Forever> <3d549b57.7638548@news.rmci.net> <3D555FAF.B3873AC0@Gate.Of.Forever> From: Seyfert-1 Reply-To: spam@yronwode.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 35 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:46:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1029023214 208.201.242.18 (Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:46:54 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:46:54 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:34024 alt.magick:312875 alt.mythology:71999 sci.skeptic:553672 alt.psychology.jung:33310 50020810 VII om *Philip* : >Yes, indeed. There's more to this instinct/archetype connection. >I find it very naive of people to think there is only instinctive >physical action and no such thing as instinctive thought. I've heard of heredity being associated with personality, and this bears prolonged examination in the field of psychology. whether the character of thought is itself shaped by inherited structures does not appear in contention, though it is certainly opposable. >The archetype is an inherited and instinctive way of having emotions, >ideas, and representations, instinct is the inherited way of acting >physically. The two are connected. Physical behavior according to a >pattern would be instinct, and concomitant inner representations, >emotions, ideas, thoughts, visions, etc are manifestations of an >archetype. We have inherited a structural something which makes us >act and think in certain ways. There is a physical aspect and a >psychological aspect to instincts. interesting, so you tie it all into instinct as it manifests in the human animal. nice. strains of species proliferation would thereafter exhibit their particular genetic-marker thought patterns and tendencies. I can see support for this. it does not require universalism or collectivity and may be supported along kinship lines (cultural facets manifesting in hereditary lines' behaviours and experiences). I'm not sure what can be extracted from this perspective about religion or gods or archetypes, however, outside studies of specific hereditary lines and their expressions/experiences. Seyfert-1 nagasiva@luckymojo.com