Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.religion.angels,alt.pagan.magick,alt.magick,alt.paranet.metaphysics,talk.religion.newage Subject: Psychic Communication and Metaphysics References: <3F22C853.90502@cox.SPAMnet> From: nagasiva Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <1ZiVa.6128$dk4.290403@typhoon.sonic.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:11:41 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1059437501 208.201.242.18 (Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:11:41 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:11:41 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:40720 alt.religion.angels:67355 alt.pagan.magick:38166 alt.magick:352847 alt.paranet.metaphysics:24632 talk.religion.newage:162883 50030728 viii om angelicusrex: #># Moses spoke to a burning bush. nagasiva: #> no, Moses is portrayed as having spoken to the God of the Universe through #> the mechanism or appearance of a bush that appeared to be consistently #> alight with flame. as the bush itself was not consumed and Moses is said #> to have spoken with said Cosmocrater through the agency of said bush, #> this was not an example of vegetative psychicism. aethyr-augoeides: # vegetative psychism is known not to proceed by these means? # LOL! :> means? we weren't discussing the means, but the ontological status of the being with whom the communiation took place. the medium (a bush) is usually the target or communicator in vegetative psychicism, whereas the bush as media agent (representative for something transcendental) doesn't indicate that the bush constitutes the divinity itself, no. compare something like "The Secret Life of Plants", in which there is a presumption that the plants have internal experiences which may be shared or somehow sensed by the human being, and the media icon of the computer monitor, which exhibits signs from beyond it which you may infer come from some other entity (as from me in this case) quite aside from any experience you may believe the monitor may have. nagasiva