Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan,alt.religion.wicca,alt.wicca,alt.traditional.witchcraft,talk.religion.misc Subject: Re: Christian Wicca References: <3f909968$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> From: lorax666 Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 84 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:12:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1066947174 208.201.242.18 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:12:54 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:12:54 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:41843 alt.pagan:376532 alt.religion.wicca:768339 alt.traditional.witchcraft:156283 talk.religion.misc:405674 50031023 happy kaos day! viii om "Yowie" posted to moderated: # ...I've been combining much of what i have learnt from Wicca, # with much of what I've learnt from Christianity, for several # years now, and on the whole, they seem quite compatable. morphologically I noticed early on that they are actually quite COMPLEMENTARY (here is the point-up pentagramattic I drew out): WICCA ======= FEMININE ADULT (MOTHER) # # # # # # # # # # # # # FEMININE ELDERLY (CRONE) # # FEMININE CHILD (MAIDEN) # # ###################################################################### ### # # ### #### # # #### #### # # #### #### # # #### #### # # #### ###### ##### #### #### # ##### ##### # # #### #### # # ### ### # # ############### # # #### #### # # #### #### # # #### #### # # ### #### # ###### ###### #### #### ## ## MASCULINE ADULT (FATHER) MASCULINE CHILD (SON) ============== CHRISTIANITY with the elderly male rather completely left out in the cold except in certain Christian traditions (the Presbyterians for example) or by dint of some solar Man-child cycle (Saturnian). Wiccans will probably object and say that their Horned Lord (if you turn the star over it reveals the Horny Lord!!!) is comprised of 2 facets (The Lord of Light and The Lord of Darkness), but my intent here is focus on the MAIN worship of these religious trads. after all, Christianity sometimes sports heavy Marian worship. # The major part where its like trying to moosh two magnetic norths # together is the concept of Jesus being saviour. there seem to be Gnostic precursors that would allow this fairly easily. Sophia being the Goddess and Jesus being some kind of Son of Sophia and intermediary, trying to help us to get past some kind of perceptual or other deception (whether this means trying to escape this world or escape the clutches of the Evil Archon that has us ensnared in the sensualities which confuse use, etc.). # While having Jesus or even Jehovah as a deity or even *the* deity # is not incompatable with Wicca, it seems to me that Wicca does not # need Jesus to have died for anyone's sins as said blood sacrifice # since "perfection" is not required to get into the Wiccan # equivalent of "heaven" - especially since Wicca leans towards # the concept of reincarnation anyway. quite true. one might take the Jesus-interpretation of him as a Vegetative God to coincide with evident Solar Cycles, thus making him the mappable to the Horned God of Wicca pretty easily, his 'dying and resurrection' becoming an important part of the Sabbats, his 'Birth at Winter Solstice' being comprehensible and appropos, even in combination with Christmas Trees! blessed beast! lorax666