Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,tx.religion.pagan,alt.magick.ethics,alt.pagan,alt.religion.wicca,uk.religion.pagan Subject: Re: Teaching Minors? References: From: lorax666 Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 98 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:15:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1071965705 208.201.242.18 (Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:15:05 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:15:05 PST Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:42775 tx.religion.pagan:16184 alt.magick.ethics:8206 alt.pagan:382812 alt.religion.wicca:793233 uk.religion.pagan:153688 50031220 vii om merrily met, kindred. #># ...how would you feel were some xtain zealot to go about behaving #># the same way with YOUR child, proseletyzing xtianity to them #># behind your back, hm? responsibly, I have contributed no humans to the planet. however, I was as a child approached by many religious folx and my mother and I often would discuss the interactions that I'd had with them. generally she taught me to question what they said and pit it against what I already knew. later I learned philosophy and saw through all their fallacies. whether my child or anyone else, my preference would be that they were informed how to deal with zealots and given the occasional demonstration around them for purposes of what I'd call 'conversion-resistance'. inevitably groups can be fun to join, but ultimately zealous groups are vampiric to individuals, and this is readily identifiable. with this kind of insight, any child of mine would be ready to handle the worst cultists. as such, I don't mind interacting with children who actively come to *me* for advice or asking questions about the universe. adults who *prey* on children should be stopped. #> Is it proselytizing if the person has been asked to teach? not as far as I'm concerned. where the instruction borders to spiritual education, then the topic of relation to parents would become part of my conversation with them (because one's parents are such a big part of their life during childhood). this might make plain what level of objection the parents may have concerning the inquiry in question. sometimes conservative parents drive their children to investigate the peculiar and the wild. excursions into those realms can help balance out a wayward and/or lost child who is out-of-touch with their parents' perspective. they may confirm their parents' views, or discover a whole new vista of knowledge and benefit by it. one of the benefits of the internet (available knowledge). careful parents will keep their children close to hand, not let them have access to channels for communicating with the immoral, untrustworthy, and manipulating folx that may have bad influences on their children. the wilds of the street or the internet are apt to contain such individuals. # The parents would feel so if they found out it was going # on behind their back, that's their problem. if they had a better relationship with their child, not based on lies and deceptions, duplicity and concealment, these kinds of things wouldn't happen and there would be nothing to 'find out'. # and it puts the person doing the covert teaching in a # rather sinister light irregardless of the religion. bring in the hemlock! # Considering how much has been in the news lately about # child molestation and abuse being perpetuated under the # shield of religion, a parent should exercise equal # oversight with regard to their child's religious # interests as they would with internet and other # activities.... this was my contention also. if the parent is acting responsibly and has kept their kid impressionable so as to continue control over them, shielding them from the world in some way, then they will have to set firm rules for the children to keep them from straying across nefarious agents and the immoral. # There are a lot of sickos out there, and such # predators hide under a variety of guises. agreed. and some who get labelled 'predators' are not actually acting as such (their involvement in things strange and controversial bringing on their notoriety). blessed beast! unless 6letters6 6letters6 6letters6 lorax666 -- yronwode.com@nagasiva; http://www.satanservice.org/ emailed replies may be posted; cc replies if response desired; HOODOO CATALOGUE! send street addy to: catalogue@luckymojo.com