Path: typhoon.sonic.net!remarQ-easT!remarQ.com!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: Lord Vic Newsgroups: alt.music.black-metal,alt.satanism Subject: Re: Christian Black Metal Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:56:56 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 45 Message-ID: <896j9o$3fe$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <20000212130242.05403.00000589@ng-cl1.aol.com> <38A5F8BC.D470258B@beer.tj> <8860ji$ho5$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <896as2$8ir$1@nntp6.atl.mindspring.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.29.251.6 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Feb 25 18:56:56 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x21.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 168.29.251.6 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDm_c_vic Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.music.black-metal:87612 alt.satanism:140788 In article <896as2$8ir$1@nntp6.atl.mindspring.net>, "charlie devico" wrote: > I was always under the notion that Black Metal was not really Anti-Christian > but was A " going back to the old gods" syndrome. I know that they are > anti-xtian as in " Ya fuckin wiped out my ancient culture now the devil has > his dues" Not quite - the 'olde gods' thing is relatively new to BM, and is the source of the now-fairly-widespread "pagan" black metal movement. Look at the originators (Venom, Bathory, Hellhammer) - all of those were rather blatantly anti-xian and/or occult-based. > but ...hell what was I saying?....I would think that they are > busier recalling the old gods than bashing on the christians...what the > fuck....ok screw all that....tfrying to say this over the net is coming out > wrong.... I know what you're getting at, but that movement came second. I don't know if Bathory started it themselves, but they were one of the first - Quorthon has said in interviews that he felt the 'raagh-satan!' stuff started feeling silly because he realized that 'satan' in that concept was just an xian symbol, so he decided to go back into his own cultural history (hence the start of the viking metal thing). And even today, quite a few of the 'pagan' bm'ers bash xianity because of xianity's past oppression of their native cultures (look at Graveland for a prime example). > A Christian Black Metal Band is a big joke. Read " Lords of Chaos" out now > through Feral Press. Hail Odin, Hail Loki, Hail Satan.... I couldn't agree more. ----- Lord Vic - mastermind of RAMPAGE http://www.mindspring.com/~lordvic/rampage/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.