Path: shell.portal.com!shell.portal.com!not-for-mail From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva) Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.fan.kali.astarte.innana Subject: ALong: Re: ONA Human Sacrifice (quoted by MAquino) Followup-To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.fan.kali.astarte.innana,alt.satanism,talk.religion.misc Date: 9 Oct 1995 08:12:35 -0700 Organization: Portal Communications (shell) Lines: 102 Sender: tyagi@shell.portal.com Message-ID: <45be53$dc8@jobe.shell.portal.com> References: Reply-To: Michael.Aquino@125-430.gigo.com (Michael Aquino) NNTP-Posting-Host: jobe.shell.portal.com [from alt.satanism: Michael.Aquino@125-430.gigo.com (Michael Aquino)] Scott (Lupo) Locklin writes: [some deleted] MA>> When David Myatt (aka "ONA" under various names) sent me his "Satanic MA>> human sacrifice" ritual, I strongly suggested to him that he not endorse MA>> it, not distribute it, and not represent it as "Satanic". He refused all MA>> three requests, whereupon I disengaged contact with him and have since MA>> distanced the Temple of Set officially from him as much as possible. SL> Liar! I have your correspondence with Christos Beest; it is your SL> letterhead, your signature, your bombastic style and typeface. Don't give SL> me any horseshit about "forgery" -it was you who pointed out that the ONA SL> uses a typewriter rather than a Crapintosh word processor. For the record, SL> your tone was hardly that of one "requesting" something, and you not only SL> not distanced yourself from the ONA, you attempted to take it over by SL> inviting them to become a part of the ToS! Anyone who would like to see the SL> letter is invited to check it out at SL> http://www.earthlight.co.nz/users/spock/satan.html SL> It is the same letter I have copies of with the Aquino typeface and SL> letterhead. I am not fluent with www-prowling, so haven't looked at this letter. However my own files contain no letters whatever to "Christos Beest" (another of David Myatt's "ONA" aliases). In all of my own correspondence with Myatt, he used the alias "Stephen Brown", which at the time I supposed to be his true name. It was only later that I learned that "pp", "Anton Long", "Christos Beest", "S. Brown", "Stephen Brown", and so on were all aliases of Myatt. So I suspect that this supposed letter from myself to "CB" is indeed a forgery, as is quite easy to construct using photocopy machines and other Macs if necessary. It appears to come from Bolton in New Zealand, and he was an active manufacturer of faked correspondence. In a separate post on alt.satanism I have reprinted my authentic final letter to "Brown", so that readers may judge for themselves. MA>> Myatt's ritual was quite literal. In the _SB_ Anton makes it clear that he MA>> is not talking about slicing anyone up, but rather a *symbolic* gesture MA>> *only*. This became quite an important distinction in all of the Geraldo- MA>> era debates, or weren't you paying attention? SL> Meathead; The present ONA stance on human sacrifice is virtually identical SL> to that of the CoS and ToS; they use magic to accomplish their ends, not SL> knives. The ceremony of recalling is a permutation on an old keltic rite SL> akin to that presented in Peter Carrols "Liber Null and Psychonaut." The SL> sacrificial victim in that rite is _voluntary_ and it explicitly states SL> that the item in question was presented for historical purposes (and, no SL> doubt, to expose the boyscouts). Since it was recently posted here, it SL> makes rather little sense for you to attempt to lie about _this_ as well. Oh? Try this on for size. It was published in the British occult magazine _NOX_ by "Anton Long" No "historical purposes only" qualifier at all. [And does the "voluntary" option - note that there is an "involuntary" as well - have the Locklin seal of ethical approval?]: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "ON HUMAN SACRIFICE "by Anton Long "Traditional Satanist groups have and still do conduct human sacrifice, regarding it as not only a very powerful form of magick but also as a means of drawing to the earth the darkest of dark powers. Traditionally, sacrifice falls into three types: the voluntary, the involuntary, and the sacrifice resulting from those events which groups or orders may (through magick or otherwise) bring about to alter history. Wars fall into this third catagory. The second type, the involuntary, is when a victim is chosen by a group or temple - the sacrifice always occuring on the spring equinox. Voluntary sacrifice occurs every seventeen years in traditional groups as part of the great Ceremony of Recalling - an invocation to the Dark Gods. Only this voluntary type will be considered here. However it should be said that involuntary sacrifice requires the consent of the Grand Master of the temple or order who desires it, and this consent is nowadays only given in special circumstances. The candidate for voluntary sacrifice is always male, an initiate of the temple and the sacrifice occuring on the summer solstice if possible, the candidate should then be in his twenty first year. The candidate is chosen on the solstice a year before the Ceremony of Recalling and if he accepts the honour becomes a honoury priest for that year. He is allowed to choose from the members of the temple a woman to be his priestess and the mistress in a simple ceremony joins them, dedicating them to the Dark Gods. If by the winter solstice the priestess is not with child, then the priest may choose another to be his priestess. The child, when born, is adopted by the temple and raised accordingly, being given great honour. it the spring equinox, the chosen is permitted to give his favour to any female member of the temple. Thereafter he will retire from all mortal affairs, living with the priestess until the appointed day. Should he at any time fail to observe his vow (by for example avoiding his obligation to the temple and attempting to hide) he shall by all the temples be placed under a death curse and the guardian of the temple sent to seek him out and terminate him without warning. After the Ceremony, the body is taken by the guardian and buried in a secluded spot near a circle of stones." -- : Fidonet: Michael Aquino 1:125/430 .. speaking for only myself. : Internet: Michael.Aquino@125-430.gigo.com -- | ^ ** CC public responses to email ** |\ | | |\ /|\ ------------------------------------------------ | \ |\ | |/ | TRY : http://www.portal.com/~tyagi/nagasiva.html | | \| | | | | |