From: Shadowen <shadowen@uea.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.out-of-body,alt.paranormal,alt.satanism,alt.evil,alt.magick,alt.magick.chaos,alt.gothic,alt.christnet
Subject: Re: The Vampire Bible [part one]
Date: 12 Aug 1996 09:46:54 GMT

kian@ix.netcom.com(Mickey Knox) wrote:
>
>>I have no choice about what I am or the way I must feed.  But I can 
>>assure you that your description does not fit me.
>>
>>You have described the type of person who acts out of insecurity.
>>
>>I act out of necessity, survival, when I act at all.  Mostly it is 
>>unconscious.
>>
>>But, naturally, I am the villain.  It would be different if I drank 
>>blood, I suspect.  Perhaps being visible, tangible, people would not
>mind 
>>so much in this materialistic world we live in.  But being hidden, 
>>unseen, while I take the sweet sustenance from people who are, mostly,
>
> So the truth comes out.. You violate a copyright and post material to
>punish the ToV for your own shortcomings. Simply because _you_ cannot
>control your self, because _you_ are the one in need of concious
>evolution.

Indeed not.  I violated copyright laws because I wanted people so see the 
truth of the pathetic temple.

Shortcomings?  I was born a psivamp, not like the *humans* like yourself 
the temple teach to become energy-leaches.

I have great self-control.  Since when did sating a need for reasons of 
survival become a lack of self-control?  Does the fact that I continue to 
breath mean I need conscious evolution?

The anger and hypocrisy reflected in your post betrayed a lack of 
self-control.  

> You are just another 'tragic hero' type who cannot stand those more
>succesful than you. You feed out of a need for abject survival, ToV
>members feed conciously to fuel and improve themselves- to make
>themselves 'more'. You cannot learn to be something so you punish and
>attack those who do. 

I have learned to become many things in this world of decay.  There are 
measures of success, and it is all relative anyway.  Each can be 
successful in their own way.  I have achieved my own successes and I am 
continuing in my efforts.  Others visions of what is successful are 
rarely my own, but either way I have nothing against those who are 
successful, whether more so than myself or not.

I feed to survive.  TOV members feed out of nothing better than selfish 
greed, because they are foolish enough to believe that this will bring 
them immortality.

> The most amusing thing is, you posts probably attracted potential
>memebers..

I have no problem with this.  If the ignorant wish to seek answers in a 
so-called ancient religion which is, in fact, no older than a decade, it 
is up to them.

>>unknowing - people seem to find it more...  revolting...  than the
>taking 
>>of life-blood.
>>
>>I satiate my thirst out of need, to further continue the existence
>which 
>>would otherwise end.
>
> And that would be a bad thing? You are not fit for life. You  remain
>alive out of a basic fear of death. 

Not fit for life?  Here you reflect the basic megalomaniac TOV philosophy 
which makes its members believe, under a strange delusion, that they are 
gods.

As for remaining alive out of a basic fear of death, I can assure you 
that you could not be more wrong.  I have come close to death before and, 
while it was not pleasant, I certainly did not fear the final cutain of 
this physical life.

I am alive because there is still pleasure in my continued existence.

TOV members feed and sacrifice life-force out of a basic fear of death.  
Is that not the basic promise/threat of obeying your weak "gods"?

>Radu
>V.Priest, ToV