Path: Supernews69!supernews.com!news.uunet.ca!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!gladstone.uoregon.edu!kdelf From: Kerry Delf Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick.ethics,alt.satanism,alt.religion.wicca,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.religion.misc Subject: Re: Satanic Ethics and Magick Followup-To: alt.satanism, alt.religion.wicca, alt.pagan, talk.religion.misc Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 22:15:56 -0700 Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene Lines: 55 Message-ID: References: <5nplkp$5a9$4@nadine.teleport.com> <5o5lf7$hdc$1@news.sas.a <33B3380E.7609@passport.ca> Reply-To: kdelf@gladstone.uoregon.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: gladstone.uoregon.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kdelf X-Sender: kdelf@gladstone.uoregon.edu To: "Prof. Faust" In-Reply-To: <33B3380E.7609@passport.ca> Xref: Supernews69 alt.magick.tyagi:13257 alt.magick.ethics:2794 alt.satanism:72546 alt.religion.wicca:76089 alt.magick:106325 alt.pagan:220125 talk.religion.misc:300683 On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Prof. Faust wrote: > Kerry Delf wrote: > > > On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, MANINBLACK wrote: > > > > > How many time do I have to watch as wiccans shamelessly point their > > > shit stained fingers at satanist while exclaiming "we don't hurt > > > children, we don't hurt animals, we are not satanists." This, > > > almost always said in the same breath almost always has the same > > > intended results and that being; "we are really the good guys but if > > > you really want to put the blame on some one then you might want to > > > look at the satanist because they don't believe what we believe and > > > therefore must be unethical and up to no-good. > > > > Certainly, many Wiccans do this. In fact, probably the majority of > > the Wiccans I've encountered have espoused some version or another of > > this attitude. However, there are exceptions to the rule (which may > > not even be a "rule" in a more extensive sample) -- and, more > > importantly, exceptions can be CREATED. > > Hmmm... odd... It might just be a U.S thing (assuming you ARE in the > states:)... I have met approximately 30 die hard Wiccans up here in > Canada, and not one has displayed this sort of attitude... In fact, some > of my closest friends, who I have the best discussions with, are Wiccans > :)... I don't know whether it's just that things are different in the > U.S than they are up here, or whether i've been lucky so far, but i'm > glad I haven't experienced this first hand... :) Yes, I'm in the States, but my statements above referred to encounters both in-person and online (meaning most of the Wiccans I've encountered have been Americans, with a number of exceptions). While the majority of Wiccans I've encountered had assumptions about Satanism which were entirely incorrect, and a great deal of anti-Satanist prejudice, I'd also have to say that probably a majority of THOSE Wiccans were willing to revise their opinions after being exposed to more information. > Prof.Faust > (who Karl prefers to call Dr.Faust) -K.Delf -- Kerry Delf (Sig file under construction)