Path: news.bjt.net!news.vaultline.net!news.infinex.com!news3.crl.com!nntp2.crl.com!howland.erols.net!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!192.48.96.125!in3.uu.net!165.113.1.82!nnrp2.crl.com!a138001.san1.as.crl.com!user From: (OCTINOMOS) Newsgroups: alt.pagan.magick,alt.religion.wicca,talk.religion.newage,alt.antichristnet,alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan,alt.satanism,alt.satannet Subject: i'm going to try asking nicely Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 03:38:08 -0700 Organization: ESOTERICK www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftBank/4493 Lines: 41 Message-ID: <-1708970338080001@a138001.san1.as.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: a138019.san1.as.crl.com X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.1.8 Xref: news.bjt.net alt.pagan.magick:1098 alt.religion.wicca:8318 alt.magick:6428 alt.magick.tyagi:946 alt.pagan:12818 alt.satanism:5271 alt.satannet:81 witches, do me a favor. whenever any christian comes talking about satan and hell and damnation, and grouping them together as if they were related or whatever, do me a favor and don't say: "we don't believe in your devil, your satan, the christian god or devil, or anything which uses the term satan or devil" because some of us who have a different deity by the same name are real sensitive and we think it sounds like you're saying our deity is somehow theirs or enemies with their god or something to that effect. we prefer you say something like "hey, we have friends who are satanists, and they don't speak at all like you do about hell and damnation, or that he is at odds with jesus over some casting of demons a long time ago which satan felt he should have dominated being he was an angelic being and not part human like jesus was." what they say is totally different about having self-worth and worship their satan in their day to day actions with full abandonment and not with reservation like the xians worship their god, who have to be with their friends in order to act righteous, but when they hang out with the nonbelievers they are the first to head into excess and perversion. a satanist needs only her/himself--and has nothing to prove to no one. and we don't appreciate you talking about satan as if only the xians had a monopoly on what the word means, they are totally wrong, don't fall into their trap, and take their side in discrediting him. thank you, dennes ps: you wouldn't like it if we said the Lord and Lady are figments of a christian's imagination. -- It is always easier to put others down than to set an example of beauty and honor. I imagine that what I take to be a 'miscreant' or 'waste of human meat' today may tomorrow surprise me as part of the next infusion of Satanic genius. Appearances are too easily deceiving. --TOKUS