From bouncefilter+zazas-l=tyagi=houseofkaos.abyss.com@hollyfeld.org Mon Sep 28 14:39:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mindy.accesscom.com (root@ns2.accesscom.com [205.226.156.3]) by shell.accesscom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA11263 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:39:09 -0700 Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by mindy.accesscom.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14336 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:39:07 -0700 Received: from mail-out-3.tiac.net (mail-out-3.tiac.net [199.0.65.15]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22944 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:39:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bouncefilter+zazas-l=tyagi=houseofkaos.abyss.com@hollyfeld.org) Received: from www.hollyfeld.org (www.hollyfeld.org [204.130.199.143]) by mail-out-3.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA29432 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:38:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bouncefilter+zazas-l=tyagi=houseofkaos.abyss.com@hollyfeld.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by www.hollyfeld.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA12790 for tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:51:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www.hollyfeld.org: majordom set sender to bouncefilter+zazas-l=tyagi=houseofkaos.abyss.com@hollyfeld.org using -f Received: from mindy.accesscom.com (ns2.accesscom.com [205.226.156.3]) by www.hollyfeld.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA12752 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:48:22 -0400 Received: from shell.accesscom.com (tyagi@shell.accesscom.com [205.226.156.10]) by mindy.accesscom.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14039; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:35:50 -0700 Received: (from tyagi@localhost) by shell.accesscom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) id OAA10895; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:35:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199809282135.OAA10895@shell.accesscom.com> Subject: (Z) Re: Demonic Relationships In-Reply-To: <19980727195752.13446.qmail@www02.netaddress.usa.net> from "demonia-k@usa.net" at "Jul 27, 98 07:57:52 pm" To: zazas-l@hollyfeld.org (ZAZAS-L Satanist Elist) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:35:50 -0700 (PDT) From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nocTifer) Orientation: House of Kaos, St. Joseph, Kali Fornika, US -- Kali Yuga X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-zazas-l@hollyfeld.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: zazas-l@hollyfeld.org Status: RO 980928 IIIom Hail Satan! a correspondent (bcc'd) writes: # While reading th Zazas-L mailing lists archives i found a # very interesting article/comment of yours... where you mention # you had stablished a permanent connection with Satan by signing # a pact with your own blood, I'm not sure that it is a "permanent" connection, but it is one within which I feel that both parties benefit and I see no reason at present to terminate it. I also feel that both of us have remained true to the bargain thusfar. # you also mentioned that the most traditional and heinous will # be the most afective ones; it would be easier for me to respond (based on context) if correspondents could quote text directly rather than paraphrasing, but I'll take your word for it. # i have some question for you: # which are those pacts you mention? have a look at the Propaganda directory at the TOKUS website: http://www.abyss.com/text/satanism/propaganda/ and pay special attention to the bits about pacts with the Devil. the Faustian tradition is very old and the aspects of pacts from which one might choose are quite extensive. as is usual where edgey, dark and/or Satanic activities of a social or commercial nature are concerned I would advise that you watch out for your own interests, have a fallback plan, and deal only with entities whom you can perceive are trustworthy enough to establish the type of connection you wish to forge. off the top of my head, I would suggest that the best forms of pact would include a signature in blood with a daemonic or wrathful entity, with or without the signature of the entity in question, in which BOTH parties benefit in some obvious manner. remember that condemnatory propaganda will include lopsided pact materials and that those of a truly Satanic character will probably best be constructed by the Satanist or via inspiration from the daemon. if you'd like to see a sample (mine), I'd recommend viewing the document I wrote about it at the following URL: http://www.abyss.com/text/satanism/practice/tokuspact.txt which I can heartily recommend based on my own experience. note its two-way benefit in its form and its open-ended application. # where can i find accurate information about them? accurate information about pacts of a *Satanic* character is very difficult to find on account of the rejection of even the *reality* of Satan in the Satanist community (one which I find admirable, though I do not abide it myself, having discovered a realistic alternative to the blatant propaganda promoted by the Christomuslim establishment). I would be happy to discuss in detail the elements of a Satanic pact from a Satanist perspective and offer my own criteria in some greater depth if you or others desire it (I'll reply to substantive inquiries through Zazas-L). # I really hope you can help me. And keep the good work on # Thanks to the attention given to this e-mail. thank you for your letter. blessed beast! blessed beast! ______________________________________________________________________ nocTifer: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com --- http://www.abyss.com/tokus TOKUS-COE Office: 408/2-666-SLUG --- Emergency Contraception:18005849911 ____________...oooOOO---zazas-l@hollyfeld.org---OOOooo..._____________ To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe" to zazas-l-request@hollyfeld.org To unsubscribe your@email.com send "unsubscribe your@email.com" To subscribe send "subscribe" to zazas-l-request@hollyfeld.org http://www.hollyfeld.org/heaven