From yronwode@sonic.net Sat Jan 09 17:23:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yronwode@prog-relay.sonic.net Received: (qmail 15201 invoked from network); 9 Jan 1999 17:23:05 -0000 Received: from sub.sonic.net (208.201.224.8) by buzz.sonic.net with SMTP; 9 Jan 1999 17:23:05 -0000 Received: from bolt.sonic.net (yronwode@bolt [208.201.224.36]) by sub.sonic.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23622; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 09:22:47 -0800 X-envelope-info: Received: (from yronwode@localhost) by bolt.sonic.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) id JAA17907; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 09:22:46 -0800 Message-Id: <199901091722.JAA17907@bolt.sonic.net> Subject: Wrathful Deities To: zazas-l@hollyfeld.org (ZAZAS-L Satanist Elist), tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 09:22:46 -0800 (PST) From: nagasiva From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nocTifer) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Orig-To: Satanist-L@necronomi.com [apologies for any duplication -- I'm doing some housecleaning -- tn] 49980613 aa3 Hail Satan! re 'evil' Gods or Goddesses 'evil' is typically not an ascribed quality outside of moralistic systems of theology and cosmology, and especially not to the category of 'gods' except by the monolatrist. usually they are called 'demons' or 'djinns' or 'spirits' instead, and are tradi- tionally associated with certain features of wild nature which are inimical to human confort and/or health. an example is Mors, the Roman personification of Death. books like _The Complete Book of Devils and Demons_ by LRNAshley, or any competent history of demonic religion (from histories of the Devil or Cosmic Antagonist to overviews on the demonology of a particular culture) will contain references to these sorts of entities. grimoires like the "Lesser Key of Solomon"/"Goetia" attempt to taxonomize such beings, and mages like Crowley and Grant have occasionally taken them as a focus of their writings. their power and origin will of course depend on where the ideas about them came from, whether they were adapted from other cultures (as so many gods have become the demons for others), and who is talking about them at any one time. from texts on Tibetan Buddhism (Buddhist Tantra as I have understood it) I have learned to call these malevolent or corrosive entities 'wrathful deities', and not to identify any particular spirit or god with a specific character (they can change, depending upon our relationship to them -- one of my points about Lilith in a previous conversation in Darkpaths). I'm in the process of creating a demonological reference, really an encyclopedia of demons and demonology, using as many references as I can lay my hands on in the next few years. my intent is to use this as a debarking point from which to engage a ceremonial series of demonic invocations, especially of those demons who are attuned to any sort of terran energies (I consider the 'alien' or 'extraterrestrial' images and stories of monsters created by H.P. Lovecraft and Alan Dean Foster to be symbolic of very deep cthonic energies we would like to *believe* alien to our being ;>). when I get it to a semblance of fill (I've created many of the entries and am now quoting from a variety of sources to fill it out), then I'll post the URL to Darkpaths, Satanist-L and other relevant forums.... it might be interesting to add entries on traits or associative categories (death, disease, storms, etc.) and the referrals to the demons associated with these nasty qualities. I'll definitely consider this. thanks for the opportunity to reflect on a subject that is near and dear to my heart. blessed beast! ________________________________________________________________________ nocTifer: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com --- http://www.abyss.com/tokus TOKUS-COE Office: 408/2-666-SLUG --- Emergency Contraception:18005849911 if you read this on Usenet, notice that this is an elist posting and it's more likely I'll see your response if you cc me.