From bouncefilter+zazas-l=tyagi=arkaotika.abyss.com@hollyfeld.org Sat May 15 06:06:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yronwode@prog-relay.sonic.net Received: (qmail 6083 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 06:06:12 -0000 Received: from sub.sonic.net (208.201.224.8) by buzz.sonic.net with SMTP; 15 May 1999 06:06:12 -0000 Received: from west4.flashcom.com (mail.flashcom.com [216.32.32.60]) by sub.sonic.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA31093 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:06:11 -0700 Received: from www.hollyfeld.org (209-67-233-180.bst0.flashcom.net [209.67.233.180]) by west4.flashcom.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KWDCZWMV; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:05:34 -0700 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by www.hollyfeld.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA30568 for tyagi@arkaotika.abyss.com; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:09:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www.hollyfeld.org: majordom set sender to bouncefilter+zazas-l=tyagi=arkaotika.abyss.com@hollyfeld.org using -f Received: from marine.sonic.net (marine.sonic.net [208.201.224.37]) by www.hollyfeld.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA30532 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:05:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 5127 invoked from network); 15 May 1999 06:02:04 -0000 Received: from sub.sonic.net (208.201.224.8) by marine.sonic.net with SMTP; 15 May 1999 06:02:04 -0000 Received: from bolt.sonic.net (yronwode@bolt.sonic.net [208.201.224.36]) by sub.sonic.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA30744; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:02:03 -0700 X-envelope-info: Received: (from yronwode@localhost) by bolt.sonic.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) id XAA22876; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:02:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199905150602.XAA22876@bolt.sonic.net> Subject: (Z) Satanism and satanism To: zazas-l@hollyfeld.org (ZAZAS-L Satanist Elist) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:02:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "tyagi@arkaotika.abyss.com" Cc: nop10942@mail.telepac.pt From: tyagi@arkaotika.abyss.com (nocTifer) Orientation: Arkaotika, Ville of the Forest, Kali Fornika, US -- Kali Yuga Organization: http://www.abyss.com/tokus X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-zazas-l@hollyfeld.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: zazas-l@hollyfeld.org Status: RO 49990514 IIIom Hail Satan! a correspondent writes: # I have created a small list of Satanic questions. Could you # reply to them or tell me who can? Thanks. I can reply to them here, yes. you are free to ask additional questions of clarification as long as you are respectful. # I sent them to a woman related to COS but I received a rude # reply saying I should buy the books and that they wouldn't # enter in a dialogue with me :( . In a newsgroup I found your # address =) random sendings to strangers are capable of yielding all manner of response. don't be surprised if you get spammed. # SATANIC QUESTIONS: # 1) I don't understand. Why do they say satanists are evil? # Aren't they nice persons? :) such generalizations are impossible to make with accuracy. some Satanists are nice, some are idiots. given the controversy surrounding "satanism" it is perhaps not surprising that many who affiliate with the name are brusque, rude, and/or dangerous. the reason that people say satanists are evil is that this conforms to the standard Christian diatribe concerning their underworld bogey and the cult which flocks to worship it. you can't blame them if they believe their own nightmares. # 2) In films we see lots of bad things in so called Satanic # sects and people killing other people and cutting their # heads off. Are they satanists too? they are satanists as described by Christians. typically these are merely stories. few are actually based on fact, and that which draws on it is often a reflection of competing religious. # So there can be many types of satanists? # Which ones are right then? there can be as many types of Satanists as there are individuals. those who are sincere are right, even if they contradict one another. # 3) What is it to be anti-gOD and anti-cHRIST? a puppet of the Christian condemnation scheme. don't believe the hype. # 4) What is the satanic point of view of the armagedon? there is no single "Satanic point of view". the point of view ascribed to the inverted Christian is of no interest to me. # 5) What is the difference between the satanists of La Vey # and the ones not from La Vey? LaVeyan Satanists are of many stripes. I'd guess that the main difference is that LaVeyans identify as following in the wake of Anton LaVey and prefer to be so identified. # 6) They say heavy metal is the music of Satan. Why do they # say that? Was there heavy metal in the dark age? Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne and quite a few of their successors made much money by playing on satanic themes in their music. the Christian establishment was happy to identify this as 'satanic music' even though much of original Heavy Metal was Christian in character. more recent music has taken satanic imagery to its logical end, confronting the Christian bogey directly and making a veritable Black Mass (translation: deprogramming art or ritual designed to counter religious conditioning) of its diversity and depth. # 7) La Vey did a great job. From where did he took all the info # to the bible and religion? this is detailed in some of the FAQs. he used Redbeard's text, is said to have drawn on Rand, and appears to have drawn on philosophers of liberation and individualistic hedonism in his farcical satire of a 'bible' and 'church'. # 8) I read La Vey created some music CDs. Are they heavy # metal CDs? it is fairly well-known that he enjoyed playing the organ and was drawn to minor-key dronings and majestic orchestrations of controversial origin (stolen?). blessed beast! nocTifer (nagasiva@luckymojo.com) ____________...oooOOO---zazas-l@hollyfeld.org---OOOooo..._____________ To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe" to zazas-l-request@hollyfeld.org To unsubscribe your@email.com send "unsubscribe your@email.com" To unsubscribe from the digest send to zazas-l-digest-request@hollyfeld.org To subscribe send "subscribe" to zazas-l-request@hollyfeld.org http://www.hollyfeld.org/heaven