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From: "Jason Haynes" <sonicsecurity@btinternet.com>
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Subject: Re: The True Man of Old?
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 16:56:19 +0000 (UTC)
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Yes thats the one I was thinking of

Thanks

"Moonshadao" <Moonshadao@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Jason Haynes wrote:
> >
> > In the Chaung Tsu a real person is defined in somewhere in the writings
but
> > I can't remember
> >
> > So what is a "Real Person ?"
> > Could somebody remind me !
>
> Here is possibly what you are talking about:
>
> "But what is a true man? The true man of
> old did not mind being poor. he took no
> pride in his achievments. He made no
> plans. Thus, he could commit an error
> and not regret it. he could succeed with-
> out being proud. Thus, he could climb
> mountains without fear, enter water
> without getting wet, and pass through
> fire unscathed. This is the knowledge that
> leads to Tao.
>     The true man of old slept without
> dreaming and woke without anxiety. His
> food was plain, and his breath was deep.
> For the breath of a true man rose up
> from his heels while the breath of com-
> mon men rises from their throats. When
> they are overcome, their words catch in
> their throats like vomit. As their lusts
> and desires deepen, their heavenly nature
> grows shallow.
>      The true man of old knew nothing
> about loving life or hating death. When
> he was born, he felt no elation. When he
> entered death, there was no sorrow.
> Carefree he went. Carefree he came. That
> was all. He did not forget his begining
> and did not seek his end. He accepted
> what he was given with delight, and when
> it was gone, he gave it no more thought.
> This is called not using the mind against
> Tao and not using man to help heaven.
> Such was the true man."
>
> Chuang-Tsu inner chapters, translation, Gia-fu Feng and Jane English
>