Subject: Darkness and Religious Law (was Nightside, Lightside) To: thelema93-l@hollyfeld.org Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:28:19 -0700 (PDT) From: nagasiva@luckymojo.com (nigris (333)) 49990804 IVom Hail Satan! # I get annoyed when I hear people say that Thelema, and the # writings of Aleister Crowley are "dark", and "occult". you're right about Crowley. he was weak, a poseur, where Satanism was concerned, and couldn't stomach the dark side. Thelema is most precisely extenuated in the dark side of spirituality. since this aspect is most often condemned and ostracized, it typicaly takes a greater capacity and intensity of WILL to engage and successfully continue delving into darker areas of oneself and spiritual traditions. this varies, of course, based on one's original character and conditioning, and obsession with any pole is likely to destabilize an aspirant regardless of hir original orientation. the most powerful magicians have always been BLACK magicians. # Also, when people think of the occult, and evil things, they # will think of Aleister Crowley. yes, he was one of the Great Martyrdom Cult, drawing attention to himself through the adoption of Gruesome Clothing in the form of anti-Christian names and themes (especially those derived from the last book of the Christian scripture, the revelation of John of Patmos -- reading it sheds quite a bit of inversion- comprehensible-light on Crowley's writings). # But, I see Thelema as something that is holy, and bright. many people prefer their religion this way, yes. # Not a lame kind of "light" like fluffy bunny slippers, # but something that is enlightening, and fullfulling. yes, you appear to be speaking of 'light/dark' as a kind of essential valuative in which the 'dark' is that which obscures, ensnares, traps, and generally harms people. this is a common paradigm. # The only thing dark about Thelema may be that it is # the road less taken, in regard to conversing with your # HGA, and spirits, and demons and such. that it may include "demons" at all says something about why it is considered 'dark' by some religious. you have not mentioned folks like Kenneth Grant, Nema, Bertiaux, any number of Satanists, and quite a few others who have a great fondness for dark symbolism, connections with wrathful deities, demons, forces and powers transcending the simplistic 'god/deva-titan/asura/demon' dualism which is favored by fundamentalists of so many persuasions. # I also get annoyed when christian parents look at a # religion like Thelema and call it a "false" religion. it IS a false religion. it collapses into itself. it will accept anyone from any other religion into its fold. its scripture is a smattering of ravings, its prophet is not at all admirable, and its adherents tend to be misfits and miscreants. what type of religion is THIS? # As if it were evil, and wrong. it IS evil and wrong to make a religion out of the Law. # I wish people would see it as I see it. ah the innermost desire of all propagandists! blessed beast! ______________________________________________________________________ (333) nagasiva@luckymojo.com; http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html I don't read everything here; cc me if you absolutely want a response.