To: alt.magick From: bheidrick@aol.com (B Heidrick) Subject: EGC/OTO/OTOA (Gnostic Catholics) Date: 49941104 Quoting: |Martin E. Jacobs (mjacob1@orion.it.luc.edu) |Bill, you completely forgot to address the French lineages which |became the OTOA and the Franco-Haitian OTO and are now operating as in |the USA uder the directorship of Michael Bertiaux. No. The French and Russian O.T.O. lineages (two) died out. They were lateral branchs of O.T.O. under Papus (G.Encausse). Bertiaux claimed to head the Franco-Haitian element of that, but never has shown any documentation or evidence of probity on the claim. In any event, this aspect did not perform the initiations and did not survive long enough to be under Crowley's authority. The Russian O.T.O. operated as a Rosicrucian order under Count Orlof in St.Petersburg (under Papus). The revolution destroyed it, and the last Grand Master of that branch died without successor in exile a decade or two ago. O.T.O. considered Bertiaux's claims seriously in the late 1970's, but they failed to prove out. There are many contradictions of known history, and no evidence to back those claims up. A couple of fake "O.T.O." groups in Italy and France base on paper from this source. Some of them have tried to supplement this sort of thing by trancing libers and additional charters from Crowley's ghost. It's ludicrous. OTOA is unrelated to the Franco-Haitian OTO and Papus. Dr. Krumm Heller (known as Huiracocha) was Head of O.T.O. for Latin America, and his provincial portion of O.T.O. became known as Ordo Templi Orientis Antiqua, O.T.O.A. for short. The OTOA never performed OTO initiations, either under Reuss or Crowley, and principally manifested as a Rosicrucian order and the Gnostic Catholic Church. OTOA still exists in derivative fragments, and the son of Dr. Krumm Heller is still living privately (after closing down the main branch of OTOA). Activity in Florida (Cuban exile branch, documentation physically lost) and in Peru, Bolivia and Columbia (restart with archives but no charter). As late as the 1950's, a member of OTOA was referred up to OTO in California (Agape Lodge, not meeting formally but still able to muster for a rare initiation) from Mexico by OTOA for initiation. |There was some new subtle initiatiory interplay instigated between |the two entities when Michael reconcecrated Hymenaeus (sp?) Beta |into the linneage of the Ecclesia Gnostica Spiritualis Michael Bertiaux did not consecrate Hymenaeus Beta, but did provide part of a lineage that passed through other hands to the individual now known as Hymenaeus Beta some years before his OTO membership. That lineage is to the Wandering Bishops through a line involving at least one astral consecration (done by a living and validly consecrated Bishop, but either over the phone or by letter, not in physical presence --- William Webb). Such astral or non-present consecrations are not universally recognized, but H.B. has since received co-consecrations to more than bridge any gap that might be attributed to an irregularity via Bertiaux. That is one of several lines of Gnostic Catholic Church co-consecration that parallels the McMurtry-Crowley-Reuss-Papus line in O.T.O. This is also discussed in the _Magical Link_ a few issues back (don't recall which one). 93 93/93 Bill Heidrick