From thelema93-l-owner@bitsy.hollyfeld.org Thu Nov 23 22:07:40 1995 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA21744 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:07:39 -0800 Received: from bitsy.hollyfeld.org ([198.70.189.30]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA04563 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:07:30 -0800 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by bitsy.hollyfeld.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA08465 for thelema93-l-outgoing; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 00:49:25 -0500 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by bitsy.hollyfeld.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA08460 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 00:49:13 -0500 Received: from jobe.shell.portal.com (jobe.shell.portal.com [156.151.3.4]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA20319 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:15:55 -0800 Received: (tyagi@localhost) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) id QAA07717; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:15:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199511240015.QAA07717@jobe.shell.portal.com> Subject: Reading Crowley (Was Re: Zeigler's books on Thoth deck) (XPost) To: thelema93-l@HOLLYFELD.ORG (Thelema93-Listserv) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:15:53 -0800 (PST) Cc: tyagi@HOUSEOFKAOS.ABYSS.COM (nagasiva) From: tyagi@HOUSEOFKAOS.ABYSS.COM (xiwangmu) Orientation: House of Kaos, St. Joseph, Kali Fornika, US -- Kali Yuga X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2403 Sender: owner-thelema93-l@HOLLYFELD.ORG Precedence: bulk reply-to: thelema93-l@bitsy.hollyfeld.org Status: RO I wrote this. |Do what you please, for that is my Law. (Xposted to Thelema93-L) | |kaliyuga |49951123 kaos | day | :> | |Jess Karlin (r3winter@bga.com) wrote: |#|If you want to learn Thoth then get Aleister Crowley's Book |#|of Thoth, the (blue) guidebook written specifically for his deck. |#|It's not an especially easy book for many modern readers |#|but it is not nearly so difficult to approach as some would have |#|it and it is the only book that will tell you what Crowley was |#|getting at. | |I tend to agree with this statement, though I think there are other tarot |books of value, even incorporating Thoth elements in their review. | | |nyts@news.dorsai.org (New York Theosophical Society:Bart Lidofsky) |#...Many have found that the best way to understand the Book of Thoth |#is to read it once through, without studying, then reading through a |#second time, this time paying close attention to the details you didn't |#understand in the first reading. Frequently, points that are unclear |#earlier in the book are made clear later on, and vice versa. The first |#reading enables the reader to get a passing familiarity with the book, |#so that s/he knows where to look to bring points together. | |Again I agree and would emphasize here the number of times this issue |has been raised wrt Crowley. For years I've been letting people know |that it seemed to me his texts composed a sort of holograph or web |with which one must become familiar as a whole before one can truly |understand the most complex elements. His intentional self-references |and syncretistic style do not lend rapid apprehension by themselves, |let alone the sometimes severely abstracted and tangenial manner in |which he may set about illustrating a point. | |_The Book of Thoth_ is perhaps one of the more accessible and self- |contained of his popular books that I have read. It is one to which |I return over and over, having read it forward and back. | |Free love, right now! | |tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com |xiwangmu |-------- | |Mallory may have a complex work, but what he took was a *vast* body of |both oral and written traditions and melded them into one, much simpler, |body of legends. Who knows what the history of the period *actually* was. |Factual history is a recent invention. | |skizyx@io.com (Jan ilauem-arluth Tomaszewski kailin-er) | tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com