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From: heidrick@well.sf.ca.us (Bill Heidrick)
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Subject: Re: Thelema, Orders, Crowley
Date: 12 Dec 1995 02:52:52 GMT
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tim@toad.com (Tim Maroney) writes:

>I was under the impression that MCLI was largely the work of Jim Eshelman.

No, Eshelman wasn't even in the OTO when some of it was written.  He had
nothing to do with its creation, but he did attempt to get rid of it
when he was on the OTO US Electoral College.  I wrote about 90% of it
under Grady's direction, with Jim Graeb adding the remainder.

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Bill Heidrick


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suti@crl.com (Greg Peters) writes:

>"There is, however, an indirect link of it to the College of Thelema (VERY 
>indirect). Jim Graeb told me, on more than one occasion, that he used  
>certain elements from Course I of C.O.T. in designing the Minerval part of 
>MCLI. It did, however (appropriately) take on a more distinctive O.T.O. 
>flavor consistent with the times.

Nope.  Jim Graeb wasn't a Minerval yet when I wrote that part.  JG
contributed one task to the IInd degree part and an idea of his was used
for another portion of that part as well -- that's all.

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Bill Heidrick