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Subject: Maatian Current, Grant, et al (Was Re: Maatian Magick Book)
Date: 28 Dec 1995 17:14:29 -0800
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destevens@delphi.com:
#|Has anyone read "Maat Magick" by Soror Nema. 

To be noted: I have read very little of NEMA.  Some slight text from out
of Black Moon Publishing.  I *did* recently review some text called 'The
Gate of Lilit' by 'Mat-A' (aka Quahavine MacMath), again I think from
Black Moon, and I thought it was somewhat overblown and poorly presented,
but I'd like to hear more careful reviews of these Maatian things.


#|...She believes that in the coming Aeon of Maat, there will be
#|no more war or crime. That is because we will all be telepathically linked,
#|though retaining our individual minds. But if one person tries to harm
#|another, they will feel the same pain as their victim. It would be
#|impossible to lie, since the other person can read your mind.

#|Sounds great? Ridiculous? Naive?

I'd say mostly the last two, though I'd call it 'sensationalist' and,
without having seen the original text (which may betray nonliteral
meanings), as worthless as Blavatsky's blathering about 'root races'.


Charles Hiltzheimer <luxferro@nwlink.com#  writes:
# ...Maat Magic ...verifies the fact that the "Maatian Current" is 
# manifesting  world-wide. 

I guess that means that 'it verifies that there are more people writing
about the Maatian Current', no?  If something more than this, please
explain how it verifies this current in your opinion.


# Aside from Kenneth Grant
# reexploring Pennum Penumbrae in his forthcoming book, "Beyond the 
# Mauve Zone", initiates in Seattle have recently channeled a new 
# English Gematria:"The Maatian Atu", numerologically verifying of the
# work of Soror Nema  & Kenneth Grant. 

Please explain briefly how this was 'verified' (more gematric claptrap?)
and of what this 'English Gematria' consists.

Is it just me or does Kenneth Grant's writing (I've perused now about
6 of his works in photocopy or original) need serious reworking to be
made easily apprehendable?  He keeps moving from detailed gematric
analysis to theoretical exposition (that he thinks this gematria
supports), then back again.  Hasn't he figured out that it would be
wiser, when possible, to footnote the number-games?  Does he write
like this on purpose?  (I'm going through and highlighting all the
relevant theory so as to make my copies accessible.)


# It's important to remember that
# the word "aeon" represents an indefinite amount of time. 

In modern times, yes.  I read somewhere that it previously referred
to some sort of gnostic entities.


# Indefinite
# also implies infintesimal.This concept of the "Aeon of Maat" 
# represents not only a measure(MAAT) of linear Time, but also a "break"
# or "pause"in the energies currently affecting the planet, as described
# by NEMA  in Liber PP. 

Crowley indicated that his own 'Horus AEon' might last for 100 or 1000
years I think.  Other than self-delusion, is there some confirmable manner
by which we can ascertain which aeon it is right now?  Are these objective
temporal phases or are there local manifestations of aeons?  Can I live in
my own Kaliyuga while you dwell in your Maatian Aeon?  Can these overlap
somehow?


# whether or we ever  attain a world like Nema describes is irrelevant;

Agreed.  There are many wonderful ideas which these texts make available,
even if their overall or futuristic theses are flawed or overly extreme.


# "MAAT" is speaking to all of us NOW...and her word implies "Justice", 
# and a "Unviversal Truth", operating both within and beyond our 
# homocentric biases. 

This is the Kaliyuga, and its Word is FUCK.  This Word implies the means
of liberation (sex magick) and consists of letters which comprise the
value 329 (14 (5)), implying the sphere of Geburah with which Kali is
typically associated.  Justice and Universal Truth are outworn concepts
kept in mind by utopians and those who would spread fantasies of perfect
society.  In fact, 'civilization' is crumbling under its own weight, and while
the transition point betwixt Maat and Kali may include occasional bouts
of idealism and activated consciousness, the spiral in which we will
continually find ourselves is a downward one, into dissolution and the
decay which Kaos and the Otherworld minions have been waiting upon for
centuries.  Ia!  Ia!

Death to the Utopians!  Their slavery shall not increase the comfort of
our horrid ensnarement!  THEY will come when the stars are right and
deal out the 'Justice' which humans for so long have deserved.

ny'rl'toth'p
------------

"In the beginning, there was nothing.
 A void of Darkness...

 When the Void was corrupted by Light,
 A great wailing was heard,
 And all the brethren fled in terror...

 What is Light without Darkness?
 I am part of you all.
 You can never defeat Me.
 We are brothers eternal..."

                                  - Darkness, 'Legend'