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From: sv@mbha.demon.co.uk (sv)
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Subject: Re: Crowley and Ignatius?
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 96 12:19:04 GMT
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 In article <83481@toad.com>
  tim@toad.com (Tim Maroney) said:-

>In article <822915276_OASIS_@mbha.demon.co.uk> sv writes:
>>Most of whom do not understand the significance of True Will. The 
>>concept was better expressed by St Ignatius many centuries before 
>>Crowley. Brother Crowley was a bit of a plagiarist.
>
>Do tell. I am always interested in the relations of Crowley's ideas
>to philosophy and theology as a whole.
>
>As for plagiarism, I don't agree. Crowley was widely read and drew his
>material from a broad set of sources -- some of which he abused
>horribly, but most of which he only abused moderately. He did combine
>them into a fairly unique (and so "original") personal synthesis, and
>he often credited his sources. I don't know of any case where Crowley
>passed someone else's writing off as his own. He was too self-impressed
>to resort to such tricks. It is true that he could have done a much
>better job of citing his sources, but given the style he decided to
>adopt, that would have meant more footnotes than main text per page!
>-- 


Fair enough, I think we can agree to agree. St Ignatius is credited
with the concept of 'Act in accordance with the True (Higher) Will'.
Crowley correctly observed that since the True Will partakes of
Divinity, if everyone acted thus, there would be no conflict iof
any kind since the True Will will bnever impinge upon that of another
True Will. It seems to me that this is very profound. 

As I recal, St Ignatius also set out a series of exercises designed to
strengthen the will (in fact, some of Franz Bardon's writings
(Initiation into Hermetics) are very reminiscent of St Ignatius).

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sv

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