From thelema93-l-owner@bitsy.hollyfeld.org Mon Jul 29 14:23:35 1996 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA07854 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:23:35 -0700 Received: from bitsy.hollyfeld.org (bitsy.hollyfeld.org [38.240.235.1]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA02300 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:23:04 -0700 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by bitsy.hollyfeld.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA02621 for thelema93-l-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 17:13:02 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by bitsy.hollyfeld.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA02617 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 17:12:43 -0400 Received: from jobe.shell.portal.com (jobe.shell.portal.com [156.151.3.4]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA00509 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:06:40 -0700 Received: (tyagi@localhost) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) id OAA06614 for thelema93-l@hollyfeld.org; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:06:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199607292106.OAA06614@jobe.shell.portal.com> Subject: Caliphate Christianity (addendum example) To: thelema93-l@HOLLYFELD.ORG (Thelema93-Listserv) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:06:36 -0700 (PDT) From: tyagi@HOUSEOFKAOS.ABYSS.COM (xiwangmu) Orientation: House of Kaos, St. Joseph, Kali Fornika, US -- Kali Yuga X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3800 Sender: owner-thelema93-l@HOLLYFELD.ORG Precedence: bulk reply-to: thelema93-l@bitsy.hollyfeld.org Status: RO 49960729 AA1 LUNAtix! (addendum example if that of Nexist wasn't sufficient) Do as you please, including challenging your Order and Ecclesia if need be. [mu's previous text as indicators of 'Old Aeon' character] #> #> * Patriarch - attached to a Church, 'gnostic catholic', #> whose 'Mass' must remain intacta, inclusive #> of 'deacon', 'priest' and 'priestess' #> ... #> * Authority - various private complaints I have heard #> from Order members regarding the centraliza- #> tion of the Order's authority, handling matters #> via appeal to the Grand Lodge rather than #> effecting resolution at the local bodies; #> from 'THELEMA LODGE O.T.O.' Newsletter, edited by BHeidrick, this text dated _this month_, July 1996 (the entirety is usually available via the internet if my sources are correct); first section, second para.: _Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica_ ... Officiation in the mass in the roles of Priestess, Priest, and Deacon has been restricted by our Patriarch during the past few years to initiates of the I' O.T.O. and above. This unfortunate and unexplained ruling has met with compliance here only under continual protest from the membership. The prohibition of occasional exceptions to this criterion has prevented the offering of a few very fine masses, as well as -- on a few occasions -- loading a burden onto our usual pool of officers when vacations and personal circumstances reduce it below a comfortable level. Some slight frustrations experienced a decade ago in teaching Liber XV to a group of Thelemic "outsiders" never represented a threat to the integrity of our performance tradition at Horus Temple, and similar concerns have not arisen since then. On the other hand, we lose opportunities to strengthen this vital tradition by the arbitrary exclusion of guest officers who evince natural ability, and we also risk compromising the efficacy of the I' initiation when it is requested prematurely for the sole purpose of satisfying the restriction. The members of Thelema Lodge, who have sustained the E.G.C. with the celebration of nearly a thousand Gnostic masses here over the past two decades, believe it is high time for a review of this needless policy. page 1; copyright O.T.O. and individual authors, 1996. _______________________________________________________ (end quote) *NOTE* this is not the first time which confusion and resistance has arisen in response to (often? unexplained) Patriarchal actions regarding Thelema Lodge and its Temple activities. _Liber XV_ is apparently the text and blocking of the 'Gnostic Mass' as mandated by its Patriarch, and within the last few decades some measure of pressure has been exerted to effect 'Masses in conformity with ecclesiastic standards', including disallowing 'variant' rites from being classed as "official", taking pains to be sure that 'Cakes of Light' (within this geographical region!) do not contain 'dangerous or diseased blood', as well as effectively restricting any personal usage of controlled substances from occurring at these official rituals or any other official gatherings. also note that I am very UNinvolved with these proceedings and say what I do not only after explanation and complaint from my kindred in the Order, but also taking into account the explanations offered by the Order Officers (such as Bill) in response. I think my assertions here are fairly conservative, but would greatly appreciate correction if they are in error, not overlooking what I have said which was accurate. am I yet making a decent case for 'Caliphate Christianity'?? ;> love is the law, free love right now! tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com mu