To: tyagi@hollyfeld.org
Subject: 9611.rgrdeix.bh
From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:22:27 -0800

>From: heidrick@well.com (Bill Heidrick)
>Newsgroups: alt.magick
>Subject: Re: Note to Nick Farrell
>Date: 11 Nov 1996 03:11:24 GMT

zirdo@ramhb.co.nz (Pat Zalewski) writes:
>Well JAE, Francis told us both the same story and lo and behold something else 
>pops up where he is now 9th degree OTO. I am afraid if the information 
>supplied is correct, then we have caught Francis out on a whopper. He has done 
>the exact opposite with the 5=6. I trust Bill Hiedrick, and any information he 
>gives on this issue is like money in the bank as far as I am concerned. If he 
>says regardie is 9th degree OTO then I accept it totally. The only problem is 
>that Francis would never admit it and flat out denied it. 

Actually, all I said is that Francis provided a photocopy of a postal card
from Crowley to Francis, which used the IXth degree salutation.  One may
guess what it meant, but in itself it means little.  Since Francis obviously
knew the secret anyway, based on other information, and since we would have
been delighted to have had him as a member of any degree short of Xth in
OTO, we offered to regularize.  He turned that down politely.  Personally,
I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Crowley wrote him down for
the degree someplace.  Likewise, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that
Francis declined or passed over such an offer in silence.  All I get from
this is that AC thought highly of Francis at the time of writing the card.
The IXth degree salutation after all is just a triadic honorific and does
not explicitly say "IXth degree".   It is a little unusual see an address
of "T.H., T.I. and T.I. Brother" without something of that, but we've used
it to test people who claimed to the IXth from Crowley's days.  Francis
knew what it meant.

93 93/93
Bill Heidrick