Path: Supernews70!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva) Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.thelema,alt.pagan.magick,talk.religion.misc,alt.magick.order Subject: KOgle: Crowley and Cagliostro Date: 20 Dec 1997 14:45:53 -0800 Organization: Access Internet Communications, Inc. Lines: 47 Message-ID: <67hhr1$eh1$1@shell.accesscom.com> Reply-To: kogle@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: 27509@205.226.156.10 X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 (NOV) Xref: Supernews70 alt.magick.tyagi:14509 alt.magick:120877 alt.pagan.magick:7028 talk.religion.misc:335877 alt.magick.order:987 [technical difficulties enforced delay] [from thelema93-l@hollyfeld.org: Kevin Ogle ] For information : The "Rite Ancien et Primitif de Memphis Misraom" is seemingly alive and well in France. The present (at least as of 1995) Grandmaster Girard Kloppel, has worked hard at gaining acceptance of this rite by the other "big" masonic rites in France. To this end he has published lots of interviews, written introductions to books, and tried to be as public as possible with the organisation. According to a 1991 review of masonry, the rite had at that time, about 1000 members distributed over 40 lodges in France. A history of the rite was published in 1989 "Magonnerie Egyptienne Rose-Croix et Nio-Chevalerie : Les fis de Cagliostro" (Editions de Rocher, 1989). The majority of the text was originally written as a Master's thesis in religion and it is quite objective but very dry reading (about 500 pages) - with lots of facts. (Normally this would not be a criticism...) A historical review of certain key texts and rituals has also appeared "Arcanes et rituals de la magonnerie igyptienne" by Serge Caillet (Tridaniel) which I have seen in the bookstores but have not read. I think Mr. Caillet has also published a history of Egyptian masonry, but I have not seen it. As this rite claims to have been founded by Cagliostro, and as Crowley claims to be the "reincarnation" of Cagliostro (with a very qualified definition of reincarnation, Confessions, p838 and 203), and as Crowley seems to have accepted that Cagliostro founded Egyptian Masonry (Confessions, p698), it can only follow that this rite is important to the history of Thelema. Their address as of 1991 was as follows : 63, rue Froidevaux 75014 Paris - Kevin ____________...oooOOO---thelema93-l@hollyfeld.org---OOOooo..._____________ To subscribe send: 'subscribe thelema93-l' to majordomo@hollyfeld.org To unsubscribe send: 'unsubscribe thelema93-l' to majordomo@hollyfeld.org http://www.hollyfeld.org/heaven -- (emailed replies may be posted); http://www.hollyfeld.org/~tyagi; 408/2-666-SLUG join the esoteric syncretism in alt.magick.tyagi; http://www.abyss.com/tokus