Path: Supernews70!Supernews60!supernews.com!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!newaeonbooks.demon.co.uk!Ian From: Ian Sturrock Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.religion.wicca,alt.gothic,alt.freemasonry Subject: Re: The Truth About Marcelo Motta and the "S.O.T.O." Followup-To: poster Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:09:03 +0000 Organization: New Aeon Books Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <885206798.2001141766@dejanews.com> Reply-To: Ian Sturrock NNTP-Posting-Host: newaeonbooks.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: newaeonbooks.demon.co.uk [194.222.147.127] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03 Lines: 32 Xref: Supernews70 alt.magick.tyagi:14741 alt.religion.wicca:107770 alt.gothic:409378 alt.freemasonry:45559 Firstly I'd like to apologize to those ngs for which this is at best only vaguely close to on-topic- I've set followups to email only to avoid further x-posting, but I couldn't let such a dubious collection of propaganda go unanswered... I'll try to keep my retort short tho'. In article <885206798.2001141766@dejanews.com>, "Kevin Bold/Fra:. Baraka" writes >In light of Liber AL's words and the >O.T.O.'s accomplishments, what further proof than our success could >anyone possibly need that we -- the so-called "Caliphate" O.T.O. -- truly >are the real O.T.O.? The COTO's accomplishments are dubious at best particularly if as I have you've been on the wrong end of an Inquisition from 'em. And as should be clear from your own article- there is *no* clear succession in the OTO after Germer. I know of at least 6 different organizations with an OTO heritage- based in the UK there is the OTO Foundation and the Typhonian OTO, there is the Caliphate OTO in the US, a pre-Crowleyan OTO in Switzerland, the SOTO in South America, and an offshoot of SOTO (whose name I don't recall) in Italy. Posts such as the above-quoted article only make the divisions between these groups more exaggerated & the Work of this Aeon still slower & more difficult. Wouldn't it be more sensible to work towards reconciling & recombining the various strands of the OTO rather than attempting to favour one faction over the others? -- "Such a day, rum all out - Our company somewhat sober - A damn`d confusion among us! - Rogues a-plotting - Great talk of separation - so I looked sharp for a prize - Such a day took one, with a great deal of liquor on board, so kept the company hot, damned hot; then all things went well again." (Teach)