From cat@luckymojo.com Tue Aug 24 20:30:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: yronwode@prog-relay.sonic.net Received: (qmail 29416 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 20:30:36 -0000 Received: from sub.sonic.net (root@208.201.224.8) by buzz.sonic.net with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 20:30:36 -0000 Received: from 208.201.230.73 (d141.pm11.sonic.net [208.201.230.141]) by sub.sonic.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA04309 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:30:28 -0700 X-envelope-info: Message-ID: <37C301EE.3DD9@luckymojo.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:34:53 -0700 From: catherine yronwode Organization: Lucky Mojo Curio Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nagasiva@luckymojo.com Subject: [Fwd: Kisma Stepanich] Content-Type: message/news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Status: RO Message-ID: <37C1CB4E.281B2F38@eire.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:29:34 +0100 From: grace@eire.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.magick.marketplace Subject: Kisma Stepanich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: pm4-1-1-169.dial.nildram.co.uk X-Trace: 24 Aug 1999 02:52:28 +0100, pm4-1-1-169.dial.nildram.co.uk Path: rQdQ!remarQ73!supernews.com!remarQ.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!peer.news.nildram.co.uk!glitch.nildram.co.uk!pm4-1-1-169.dial.nildram.co.uk Xref: rQdQ alt.magick.marketplace:1811 As a former student and coven member, of Kisma Stepanich (a.k.a. Kisma Reidling) I feel that I must say something for the benefit of the Pagan community at large. I encourage you to seek the truth for yourself, it's what Kisma is most afraid of. Many of her other former students have also written statements and letters that show how she runs a coven is based on "cult" brainwashing techniques. (see Isaac Bonewitz's Cult Danger Evaluation Frame) For instance, students are restricted from contacts outside the group, (told who they may or may not remain friends with) and also from contact inside the group (she doesn't want them to compare notes with each other or talk about her when she isn't there) so all situations are managed by her. Like a tin-plated dictator with delusions of Goddesshood (and with a really nasty temper), she uses public humiliation coupled with saccharin-sweet compliments, and then more humiliation, she keeps people off-balance so they don't know where they stand and must turn to her (and only her) for guidance. Family commitments and health issues take second place to all group/coven activities, and woe be to you if you question her. She charges monthly coven tithes as well as admission to each moon gathering, and sabbat. A mandatory part of the training for all students is attendance at ALL her outside classes at locations other than her home, (local bookstores, meeting halls) about $70 to $90 each. And there is a $50 charge for initiation, which MUST be re-newed (and paid for) each year. Kisma was a member of Southern California CoG (Covenant of the Goddess). She is no longer a member because of many ethical violation complaints filed with CoG, but before steps of action could be taken, Kisma merely failed to renew her membership. (because she didn't want to have to answer to the charges that would have resulted in lot of negative attention in the larger Pagan/Wiccan community when the truth came out) Her offenses included; lying to CoG about her original qualifications for membership, lying about her connections to CoG, and charging fees for initiation. She has claimed that she and Janet and Stewart Farrar are of the same lineage, and this is simply not true as the Farrars will attest to. In the first coven she ever worked with, (in Southern California) she only reached the level of a first degree. The "family chart" which she passes around is made-up by her. Any advanced training Kisma may have received seems to have come from the correspondence courses offered by Fellowship of Isis. She has made claims both in public and in private that she alone is Lady Olivia's chosen successor. Furthermore, Kisma is an obvious plagiarist, she has written barely two sentences of her books by herself. Also, she has been sued for plagiarism on both her "Gaia Tradition" and "Faery Wicca" books, (and one of the authors won against her and Llewellyn) and cheated artists who worked for her out of royalties and agreed upon payments. In essence, Kisma always has reasons and justifications for her every word and action, (she will no doubt try -or get one of her lackeys to- explain away everything I've said here, or she'll say that she feels sorry for me or that I'm jealous of her -what a laugh!) she's a consummate con-artist, and brilliant at lying, plagiarism, and manipulation. She has never had an original thought about anything other than how to make money off of poor hapless seekers of Witchcraft. She is vicious, ruthless, without scruples and should thus be avoided completely. She has threatened me and my family with physical violence and magical retribution, should I make this information public, so I am using an alias. Below are addresses to confirm what I have said Covenant of the Goddess (CoG) P.O. Box 1226 Berkeley, CA 94701 e-mail:info@cog.org Janet and Stewart Farrar e-mail:jsfarrar@iol.ie Llewellyn Worldwide (make them tell you, they don't want this information available) 84 South Wabasha St., P.O. Box 64383, St. Paul, MN 55164 phone: 1-651-291-1970 e-mail: bobbi@llewellyn.com