Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.religion.wicca,alt.wicca,alt.pagan Subject: Re: Wiccan Love Spells References: <23cf48a7.0310050917.60079b3f@posting.google.com> <3F806B42.77F5@dmcom.net> <5741bd87ddf58fc7d55c681326cf8e6a@news.teranews.com> <3F807DDD.B71@dmcom.net> From: lorax666 Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com User-Agent: nn/6.6.0 Lines: 73 Message-ID: <5Ajjb.32285$dk4.879485@typhoon.sonic.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:09:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.242.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 1066255745 208.201.242.18 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:09:05 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:09:05 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:41729 alt.religion.wicca:764615 alt.pagan:375744 50031015 viii om Princess Butt Pirate in alt.pagan: #>#> You might try alt.religion.wicca.moderated. #>#> Since you're looking specifically for a Wiccan #>#> spell, you likely won't have much luck here. bard@dmcom.net: #># Even the moderated side tends not to give out love spells. isn't it telling? some of it is moral qualms, the rest seems to be technical limitation and lack of experience. Princess Butt Pirate: #> Perhaps there aren't any, or maybe just many. I tend to think that Wiccans and Neopagans are more interested, per capita, in religion than magic. the focus is on worship, rather than on spellcasting, with the bulk of Neopagans. often what is *called* magic will be religious activities, similar to how many Hermetic magicians identify mysticism with magic. these two primarily post-Christian religiomagical streams are directly related and the influences are evident. #> If there are specific tenets warning against that type #> of behaviour, then constructing a love spell doesn't #> really seem to belong in Wicca. there aren't specific tenets. it's just that so many Wiccans come from dogmatic backgrounds that they believe a guideline ('The Rede') MUST be adhered to, rather than serving as a good guide for behaviour which is *optional*. bard@dmcom.net: # Oh several love spells, perhaps too many for two reasons: # there are very few (if any) set fomulars that work for # every person the same way; I have never heard that one before. if you'd care to elaborate, I'd love to hear more about why you think this may be true. # the other is respect for free will (depending on the # type of love spell a binding can result that restricts # the free will of one or both). sociopolitics is volitionally-influencial. casting spells on others is controversial within the Wiccan community, agreed. # This being said certain types of love spells certainly not # forbidden. A call for true love to come to ones life if # cast well not considered a problem by many, poorly cast # however can result in an unexpected (and undesired) bindings. that's a good intermediary spell notion (love call), yes. another would be *involving the intended in the spell directly*. blessed beast! lorax666 -------------------------------------------------------- UNLESS hey, somebody's gotta talk for the beasts. =========================================================== ===== (Planetary Order Talisman --- Skip-1 Formula!) ===== ANCIENTS : M-2-3-1-5-6-7 (mean terracentric motion order) NIGRIS : 2-1-6-M-3-5-7 (a mysterious, hidden sequence!) WEEKDAYS : 1-M-5-2-6-3-7 (weekdays in the solar calendar) =========================================================== PLAN-KEY : 1-2-3-M-5-6-7 (Sun-Merc-Ven-Moon-Mars-Jup-Sat) ========== (Rotating Wisdom From The Ancients!) =========== ===========================================================